have sent a pm to you with some info from tvoc forum and pprune
Ta. 🙂
This was taken courtesy of Checkflaps on UKAR from the TVOC AGM on Sunday just gone:
Ref Woodford and XM603. She is owned by BAe but TVOC do get first dibs on the parts once the, sadly, destructive testing has been undertaken on the wing spars and other components. BAe are also interested in the tests to see the effects of long term exposure to the elements on large airframes.
Anyone know when these ‘tests’ are to be carried out and the nature of them? 🙁
I propose that this thread is moved from Historic Aviation to Histronic Aviation… :rolleyes:
Down safely at Bruntingthorpe approximately 10 minutes ago.
My congratulations to the team on a hopefully successful conclusion to the test flight program.
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Try emailing or writing a letter to them or give the office a ring. or better still ask denis the next time you see him
Bl00dy hell Bubbles!! They can’t do that!! If they have the truth they can’t wildly speculate or sling mud anymore!! Having said that, they’d find something to have a go at, like ‘for all that money wasted, couldn’t they have at least got a taller AEO??’ or something else…
I edited my post before to reflect what I meant.
Airworthy after she landed?? Haha!! Was she not grounded in 1993 because she was soon to be un-airworthy?? They took her to bits for the craic?? Or do you think it was done to make her airworthy again?? That list of jobs as long as the M6 were just made up and carried out so people could spend someone elses money?? Ok, if you say so…
Anyway, I could argue with you and whoever else until i’m blue/red/purple/all three in the face – you and others have their views and I have mine. We could be here all week going backwards and forwards but i’ve got stuff to do…
Right, so what you’re really saying is that there are no major sponsors yet, but they thought they’d just tell us that they’re queuing up so that we give more money? Mmm, smart move.:eek:
I’d say it was an extremely smart move, we have an airworthy Vulcan Bomber because of it. No company was/is ever going to sponsor her until she was rebuilt and in possesion of a valid permit to fly. You don’t need to be Alan Sugar to work that out. And as for being ‘sure they’d be queueing out the door to sponsor her’, how could they be so sure?? Do they have a crystal ball?? They’ve used public money to do what they said and that was to get her flying again. She might need public money to stay there.
So, now that we’ve got her flying, and assuming that no one comes forward, where does that leave us? Or worse still, where does that leave the aircraft? “probably still be ground bound or, even worse, leaving Bruntingthorpe in the back of various scrap wagons”???????
At worst, groundbound. However me and the other X-thousand or so supporters/idiots/misguided souls/money to burn merchants/lepers have no intention of letting that happen.
Public subscription scheme? I think thats called an airshow, and at the moment, they need a sponsor to be able to play in that game?
No, airshows are called airshows. They’re called this because the general public pay for a ticket to see aircraft put on a show up in the air. That’s why they’re called airshows and not airsubscriptionschemes. Sally B relies heavily on the Sally B club for a lot of funding IIRC and while the running costs for the Vulcan are of course bound to be a lot higher, this possibility has to be looked at in case this company you’re content in waiting for doesn’t show up…
No, thanks all the same, but i think I’ll keep my believes in TVOC on this one, and wait for them to come and tell us which companies are on that list… I really hope one comes forward.
Like I said above, you can keep your hands in your pocket, like I said, you give because you want to, not because you have to.
Anyway, in the meantime, I’ll quite happily keep throwing money down into the ‘bottomless money pit’ that has made whoever has seen it fly this week, or indeed the last few weeks, wet their Y-fronts with excitement… :rolleyes:
The fact is that TVOC have never come forward and said no one wants to sponsor the Jet… there has always been reasons why that haven’t come forward ‘yet’… And I’m sure you’ll find somewhere down the path, we were told that the sponsors would come forward when the permit was issues. Well actually, we were first told that it would be once she first flew, but that was 6 months ago, and no one has come forward yet… or at least no one we know about. Then we were told they’d come forward once the permit was issued.
I believe that this ‘stance’ they adopted is called ‘being positive’, the stance they have had since the start of this project which got her into the air in the first place. If they’d adopted the attitude of certain people, she would probably still be ground bound or, even worse, leaving Bruntingthorpe in the back of various scrap wagons.
If a sponsor doesn’t come forward, then it will be down to a public subscription scheme, or at least having a look at the viability of such a scheme. And, before all the ‘we need more money’ brigade start, you give them money because you want to, not because you have to. If you don’t agree with it, by all means keep your hand in your pocket.
Is Binbrook finally about to vanish then?? 🙁 I’d love a look around there, I know 320psi said it’s a sorry sight to behold now… 🙁
She landed at Coningsby safely at approx 16:45.
I’d love to get a look around Binbrook. How would you go about it?
RUNWAY CHANGE: From PPRuNe, now apparently using runway 22 taking off over Oakham
Thanks for clarifying some of the info, I wonder if any board users have any pictures of vulcans at valley? I hear they were based here for a short while?
They were never based there but were regular visitors there during dispersals and other exercises.
Also there was a vulcan on the dump in valley for years, any history on this one?
Welcome to the forum!
The Vulcan in question was B2 XL392, first delivered to the RAF on 01/08/1962, with Olympus 200 series engines. She was last flown to Valley for the fire dump on the 24/03/1982, as maintainance airframe number 8745M. She finally perished during 08/1993. Prince Charles flew this bird as well!! There are some pictures of her on the dump that I have seen. Her cockpit was badly burned but the rest of her wasn’t by the time she was finally put out of her misery.