Palestine show that Democracy is flawed if not supplemented with Security and Prosperity.:)
I don’t think its that flowed and it proved it self in the case of the hamas.
Just because they won the election doesn’t mean they are automatically in the democratic club. As long as they refuse to recognize past agreements with Israel or even Israel’s right to exist, the world act correctly in boycotting them.
Palestine show that Democracy is flawed if not supplemented with Security and Prosperity.:)
I don’t think its that flowed and it proved it self in the case of the hamas.
Just because they won the election doesn’t mean they are automatically in the democratic club. As long as they refuse to recognize past agreements with Israel or even Israel’s right to exist, the world act correctly in boycotting them.
Many Palestinians already see today’s situation as without any future. Groups like HAMAS would hardly find supporters in the masses of happy prosperous people.
I recall the 9/11 bombers were from well off families and had the best education money can buy. The problem is the incitment that goes on in the mosques (with Saudi funding) and it happesns in every major city in Europe and North America.
In Gaza itself the incitment started under Arafat and reached new high with hamas. children TV shows show mickey mouse, Assud the rabitt and other calling children to murder Jews. Even if 0.1% of the muslim population belives in Jihad it then the number are still huge.
Many Palestinians already see today’s situation as without any future. Groups like HAMAS would hardly find supporters in the masses of happy prosperous people.
I recall the 9/11 bombers were from well off families and had the best education money can buy. The problem is the incitment that goes on in the mosques (with Saudi funding) and it happesns in every major city in Europe and North America.
In Gaza itself the incitment started under Arafat and reached new high with hamas. children TV shows show mickey mouse, Assud the rabitt and other calling children to murder Jews. Even if 0.1% of the muslim population belives in Jihad it then the number are still huge.
I don’t think this necessarily reflects the attitude of Iranian people. Many Iranians feel closer ties to Jewish race than to Arab race.. Both races (Persian and Jewish) see themselves as superior and they find a rather deep understanding in that notion.
That what I said. On a personal level there is no hatred between the people and there is even close and worm relationships between the people.
The current Iranian regime is only a tiny dark blemish in otherwise good long history.
I don’t think this necessarily reflects the attitude of Iranian people. Many Iranians feel closer ties to Jewish race than to Arab race.. Both races (Persian and Jewish) see themselves as superior and they find a rather deep understanding in that notion.
That what I said. On a personal level there is no hatred between the people and there is even close and worm relationships between the people.
The current Iranian regime is only a tiny dark blemish in otherwise good long history.
I have a question: Why don’t Iran like Israel ?
and can someone gimme a link where Iran says something like: Israel should sease to exist ?
You are asking the question in wrong manner.
A. The Jewish and Iranian (Persian) people have a great history of friendship going back to Cyrus the Great (550 BC) which allowed the Jews to return back to Israel and Judea and rebuild the temple.
B. There was very good and strong relationship until ther Shah wa overthrown and the fundamentalist took power.
Need to seperate the people from the regime.
“Israel must be uprooted and erased from history” inscribed on a Shahab 3 ballistic missile
in a military parade in Teheran (September 22, 2003).
More examples at
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/html/final/eng/sib/4_04/as_iran.htm
I have a question: Why don’t Iran like Israel ?
and can someone gimme a link where Iran says something like: Israel should sease to exist ?
You are asking the question in wrong manner.
A. The Jewish and Iranian (Persian) people have a great history of friendship going back to Cyrus the Great (550 BC) which allowed the Jews to return back to Israel and Judea and rebuild the temple.
B. There was very good and strong relationship until ther Shah wa overthrown and the fundamentalist took power.
Need to seperate the people from the regime.
“Israel must be uprooted and erased from history” inscribed on a Shahab 3 ballistic missile
in a military parade in Teheran (September 22, 2003).
More examples at
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/html/final/eng/sib/4_04/as_iran.htm
Oh, you must be so smart, you can tell in two seconds, who’s lying and who tells the truth! And you can’t see how it effects Israel either? For sure someone must be very proud of you…
P.S. I’m not trying to sell anything.
No, it took me 2 seconds to find the article that proves that the Israeli government seeks a two state solution, Ironically the Israeli PM state same reasons for it as you did. If you would have bothered to check the facts I’m sure you would have reached the same conclusion.
Oh, you must be so smart, you can tell in two seconds, who’s lying and who tells the truth! And you can’t see how it effects Israel either? For sure someone must be very proud of you…
P.S. I’m not trying to sell anything.
No, it took me 2 seconds to find the article that proves that the Israeli government seeks a two state solution, Ironically the Israeli PM state same reasons for it as you did. If you would have bothered to check the facts I’m sure you would have reached the same conclusion.
Yeah, Hitler too was convinced that his regime would last 1000 years!
That aside, let’s have a calm look at a few realities:
– Israel has never really endorsed the two-state solution, they’re just trying to fool the Palestinians in that regard (proved by their attitude towards the Palestinians, in the past and at present).
– The dynamics of demographics, is clearly in favour of the Palestinians. That means that after some time, as oppressed they may be, as deprived of a series of basic means, necessary to satisfy their basic human needs, and despite the scores of them being killed every once in a while, the Palestinians will once again constitute the majority population within Palestine in the near future (comprising the Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank and Israel).
– It seems most likely, that Iran’s Nuclear Program, has already reached a point of no return, thus leading to a projected nuclear capability, with all its implications (of course, it’s silly to believe that Iran would use the nuclear weapons it might acquire, as an offensive asset, rather than a deterrent).From the above points results that, it would seem to be in Israel’s interest to deal with the Palestinian Issue now, rather than in the future, when it may find itself in a position of being obliged to accept a one-state solution, a state that would not be constitutionally jewish, as Israel is today. Thus the question arises, as to what Israel’s intentions really are, regarding that matter. Unless they’re maybe hoping that some kind of ‘Spanish Flu’ would take care of the problem?
I don’t understand how you can just lie without bothering to check a single fact? took me two seconds to find that the Israeli is a huge supporter of the two state solution
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/929439.html
While hamas and fatah kill each other on sight. So is there a Gaza state a west bank state? Jordan is 80% Palestinian and if Israel agree to Palestinians returning to its territory then you will have 4 Palestinian states.
The demography inside Israel is still favours the Jews by a ratio of 8:2 and since Gaza/W. Bank arabs only vote for their leaders (hamas won t he elections) I don’t see how it effects Israel?
However, at least you are not trying to sell us the story that Iran nukes are for civilian use.
Yeah, Hitler too was convinced that his regime would last 1000 years!
That aside, let’s have a calm look at a few realities:
– Israel has never really endorsed the two-state solution, they’re just trying to fool the Palestinians in that regard (proved by their attitude towards the Palestinians, in the past and at present).
– The dynamics of demographics, is clearly in favour of the Palestinians. That means that after some time, as oppressed they may be, as deprived of a series of basic means, necessary to satisfy their basic human needs, and despite the scores of them being killed every once in a while, the Palestinians will once again constitute the majority population within Palestine in the near future (comprising the Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank and Israel).
– It seems most likely, that Iran’s Nuclear Program, has already reached a point of no return, thus leading to a projected nuclear capability, with all its implications (of course, it’s silly to believe that Iran would use the nuclear weapons it might acquire, as an offensive asset, rather than a deterrent).From the above points results that, it would seem to be in Israel’s interest to deal with the Palestinian Issue now, rather than in the future, when it may find itself in a position of being obliged to accept a one-state solution, a state that would not be constitutionally jewish, as Israel is today. Thus the question arises, as to what Israel’s intentions really are, regarding that matter. Unless they’re maybe hoping that some kind of ‘Spanish Flu’ would take care of the problem?
I don’t understand how you can just lie without bothering to check a single fact? took me two seconds to find that the Israeli is a huge supporter of the two state solution
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/929439.html
While hamas and fatah kill each other on sight. So is there a Gaza state a west bank state? Jordan is 80% Palestinian and if Israel agree to Palestinians returning to its territory then you will have 4 Palestinian states.
The demography inside Israel is still favours the Jews by a ratio of 8:2 and since Gaza/W. Bank arabs only vote for their leaders (hamas won t he elections) I don’t see how it effects Israel?
However, at least you are not trying to sell us the story that Iran nukes are for civilian use.
Are you serious?
They won’t stop firing rockets because it’s the only way they have to hit back. Israel has to go in on the ground and destroy them.
If the same tactics were used by an Army that is not an ally of the US, you would all be screaming bloody murder…..your hypocrisy is nauseating!
They won’t stop firing rockets because their entire exitance revolvs around the desruction of Israel. Thar’s way they will never recognize Israel, sign a peace deal with Israel or even recognize past agreements already signed with Israel. Those rockets were being fired for the last 8 years and intensified as soon as Israel pulled out of Gaza in May 2006 taking their living and dead Jews with them.
More about the Hamas charter
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html
This attack has nothing to do with a larger scale training attack on Iran as the targets, threats, distance are totaly different.
Are you serious?
They won’t stop firing rockets because it’s the only way they have to hit back. Israel has to go in on the ground and destroy them.
If the same tactics were used by an Army that is not an ally of the US, you would all be screaming bloody murder…..your hypocrisy is nauseating!
They won’t stop firing rockets because their entire exitance revolvs around the desruction of Israel. Thar’s way they will never recognize Israel, sign a peace deal with Israel or even recognize past agreements already signed with Israel. Those rockets were being fired for the last 8 years and intensified as soon as Israel pulled out of Gaza in May 2006 taking their living and dead Jews with them.
More about the Hamas charter
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html
This attack has nothing to do with a larger scale training attack on Iran as the targets, threats, distance are totaly different.
Benazir Bhutto was murdered because she was anti Taliban and not for being a woman (which didn’t help either). If anyone was able to pull it off, then it’s likely was the Pakistani secret service ISI, which created the Taliban in the first place. There is a small chance of a civil war, which is scary because a fanatic side may emerge as the winner and have nukes in there posession.:eek: