I have read all the stories about how some Swiss enginneer working for Dassault has hotten the blueprints for the Israelis. Similarly their allies at Snecma got the engine plans.

OR and just MAYBE

The embargo of the Mirage 5 was just red herring. Maybe the IAF did get their Mirage 5 from Dassault after all.

The Israeli mossasd set up a company to dispose of all the schematics from dassault in switzerland. They of course were transfered to the IAI.
The engine was taken from the US it think it was J-79 i’m not sure.
No Mirage or any french jet planes ever made it to Israel after that.
Even more intersting story is what happened with the Frigates Israel bought and how they snicked them out of Cherbourg.

It’s a tragedy. However it’s not really surprizing in this part of the world.
I however wonder how killing hundred’s of kids will serve Checnia’s cause ?????

Never mind helping their cause, they just bought themselves a new enemy
for hundreads of years. I don’t think the Ocetians will ever forgive the chechens or other muslim groups in the area. I wont be surprised to hear
of vendetas and revenge attacks against chechens and muslims in the
very near future..
P.S. Are the Russians going to attack the pensky gorge afinally?

Oh, and Usual marvellous Russian rescue job once again. Its always the innocents who suffer.

Probably one of the dumbsest, cruelst things i ever heard. 😡

US APPACHEA helicopters damaged in Iraq by SA-7

RAF jets in dud gun fiasco

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004372854,00.html

By GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON

RAF TYPHOON warplanes will be fitted with £90million worth of machine guns that can’t FIRE — to save money.

Mauser BK27 cannons were in the £43million jet’s original design but MoD chiefs axed them to cut costs.

That upset the plane’s ability to fly, so the guns are being refitted but not connected to the pilot’s trigger.

Disarming them will save a paltry £2.5million on the fleet of 232 jets.

Tory defence spokesman Gerald Howarth said: “It’s ridiculous. If the gun’s fitted we may as well use it.”

The decision will infuriate RAF top brass. Air Commodore Andrew Lambert said: “When dealing with terrorists or unpredictable situations you want the flexibility a gun gives.”

This is yet another fiasco in the Eurofighter project. It is already 20 years out of date and tests recently deemed the jets unsafe in clouds.