Allow me to vent green….
uuugh. :rolleyes:
Trendy political projects are already vying for the demise of general aviation without warbird enthusiasts jumping on board. There is obviously no green purpose behind flying any warbird…so maybe they should all be grounded to save the human race from dying some hot horrible death? Methinks humanity is far too full of itself!
…or were you being facetious? 😀
Just from my little list of known survivors that I’ve put together, I count at least forty-three different MiG-17’s at various locations around Poland. Most of these are on outdoor display as makeshift monuments at various “museums”, both private and government. I put the majority of this list together by simply researching the photos available at http://www.airliners.net, etc. Do a search for “MiG-17” there and you’ll get a pretty good glimpse at the state of preservation that most of the Polish MiG’s are in. A great number of them are simply parked in the grass and abandoned “on display” at these smaller museums. A number of these locations have two or even three examples of the same model sitting outside. I figure there’s a decent chance of acquiring one if you made a resolute enough go at it.
I have an aquaintence in Florida who regularly travels to Europe for warbird related business. He ships items back to the US for himself and other MiG owners on accasion. A couple years ago he quoted me a reasonable number to have a complete & airworthy MiG-15 (with logs) disassembled, packed, and shipped to the US not long ago. In total it was about equal to the price of the average mid-sized car. That price would get it to the docks in New Orleans (five hours from my house), where I’d have to receive it and get it the rest of the way home. That said, I imagine the shipping costs to the UK would be markedly less than having the same load sent across the Atlantic.
You could always approach an air museum in your general area and contact the personnel there who have handled museum deliveries like this in the past. Ask them how much they would charge to perform some side work, managing a truck delivery from the docks to your personal storage location. That would at least allow you to piece together an initial budget to see if it would be doable. If it’s something you really want, and you can justify the cost, I’d say go for it. Once you have it, it’s all yours! 😎
Not so much cockpits by themselves – at least not when it comes to MiG’s anyway. More often than not, a person will spot disassembled airframes like the ones in the photos below. These two (ex-Bulgarian) airframes were spotted by another warbird enthusiast last month just across the border frm me in east Texas. There is another complete example displayed out in front of an antiques shop about 50 miles up the road from these in a small town outside of Dallas.
There are at least 80 different MiG-17’s in the United States that I have traked down, and quite a few are still stored disassembled like this. Many are already becoming derelict after being acquired as “cheap” display pieces at smaller museums around the country. A person could pick up quite a few of them relatively cheaply if they were motivated to that end, but the cost of diasssembly, loading, trucking, and unloading would be more of the limiting factor. Honestly, if I had a place to put them (!) this would probably be a primary focus of mine – collecting these disrepected airframes on the cheap and storing them as investments for the future. Once you get your hands on one, concerns about long term storage become a very real factor in your game plan. I was limited to an old barn at the time of my first recovery. I’m about a year out from finally acquiring my own hangar finally, after which I may single out another airframe somewhere and give it another go. Still no budget to make a real bid at restoration and flying though. 😉


Where are you located bbspolo (US or UK)?
I bought a MiG-17 here in the US for $11K last year (since sold). There are quite a few derelict MiG-15’s & -17’s available here in the US. There are also loads of them floating around in Poland if you can find a local importer to handle the disassembly/recovery. There’s a good chance that the recovery costs may outweigh to cost of the plane itself, but you’ll forever have your MiG after that. 😀
If it were me, I’d try to find one that’s complete with log books. You never know what the future may bring, and an airframe with log books means it stands a real chance of returning to the skies one day. It’s a good way to maximize your investment if that option’s available to you.
Here’s we are breaking mine down last year. It was later purchased by a man in Texas who was looking to do the same thing as you – build a fuselage display for personal enjoyment. These jets are perfect for that use, especially for the enthusiast working on a limited budget.


I think it’s an excellent rendering of the MiG-15. 😎 For all it’s historical significance, I think it’s still a fairly underappreciated warbird type (for now).
Also FWIW, the type of aluminum used to manufacture the MiG series isn’t a polishable matierial. Your artwork nailed the authentic look perfectly, but notice you’ll never see a MiG-15, MiG-17, etc with a gleaming chrome-like finish on it like some of its Western counterparts. The quality and type of material used simply doesn’t polish.
Unique beauty and exclusivity for me, not to mention a specific passion for the type.
If had the surplus cash, I’d certainly own a Tucano without ever considering an L29 or a Venom. There are also some factors regarding turbine vs. pure jet to be considered. Plenty of businessmen bought P-51’s in the 1960’s when there were far more practical machines to suit their purposes as a “business commuter”. If a person has a passion for a particular type, they will certainly find a way to “make the mission fit the airplane”. 😀 Especially in the realm of warbirds, it’s a given that passion will trump the pocketbook when and if at all possible.
So far I’ve seen prices from $60K to $100K for these airframes, all without engines, and with some of the less expensive airframes missing a few items such as canopies and the occasional control surface, etc.
If engines can be acquired for $200US, I figure a frugal investor could probably get one back in the air for under $400,000 (not sure what that comes to in pound sterling). Not a bad price IMO seeing that the similar Pilatus PC-7 turboprops seem to all be selling for over $1 million, and they’re not nearly as attractive a platform as the Tucano IMO.
If I had the capital, I’d surely enjoy importing a couple of them into the US to see how they were welcomed on the market. For now, I’d gladly just settle for the vicarious experience. I’ve got hangar space available in Louisiana if any of you US investors out there need a place to park ’em! 😀
All I want to know is, what kind of amazing connections does Mr. Pearce have to have single-handedly domintated the Russian warbird recovery/export scene? 😎 Surely there had to have been multiple parties over there making plays for this stuff.
Whatever the case, there’s certainly a fine hardback book somewhere just begging to be fattened with the facts and photos of it all IMO. Pack it full of the recovery details for each airframe, with specific and detailed service & combat histories for each, throw in the necessary profile art and jillions of photos, and you’ve got yourself an instant modern classic for the warbird shelf. 😀
Must be amazing to have all of that previously untapped history paraded right through one’s own private hangar.
If anyone comes across a direct link to any of the available Tucano airframes (other than the Everett Aero machine), please post your findings here. Thanks 🙂
Okay, so who can ID the paint number and manufacturer for the blue coat used on that fuselage? 😎
Any shots of the MiG-17? 😎
Man, those are definitely interesting photos. That’s the first I’ve seen of the “Western Village Inn” markings. Those are no doubt remnants of Bob Yancey’s racing days in that aircraft. Also note the clipped wingtips and de-modified windscreen frame.
If I remember correctly, the paint scheme shown in these photos was stripped while the plane was still with WGB. Can anyone confirm this, and if so, are there any photos of the plane following the repaint?
Not sure what your laws are regarding importation, but I’m sure I could find a few machinegunners over here in the US who might be willing to put together some linked .303 belts (cases and inert bullets only – no primers or powder) for a fair price. Would an item like that be restricted for import into the UK?
Most pilots know the “three strikes” principle. If you look into any accident, you’ll usually find that a combination of no more than three mistakes was all it took to bring about the crash. If you’re airborne and begin letting your mistakes stack up, you’re going to find yourself in trouble very quickly.
This pilot apparently allowed himself way too much leash and got pushed into a corner – flying VFR in IFR conditions at 100 feet(!) AGL over unfamiliar mountainous terrain. Still yet, it seems he was pressing on toward his destination rather than cutting his losses and putting down safely while he still could.
Once again, I’m left wondering how many veteran warbird pilots out there still push the limits like this on regular basis. Rudimentary pilot logic and principles aside, there’s a very good reason why the National Warbird Operator Conference exists, and I know this particular pilot was no stranger to it. God rest his soul, but there is no date on any itinerary worth pushing the envelope that far. It’s always a shame when the ending of a great aviator’s legacy is punctuated with a lesson of how not to fly an airplane.