Sorry … I meant Hyperwarp. This is the General Dynamics proposal.
Wow, Aerospacetech, you are a font of knowledge. Thanks for all the pics.
Hyperspace … This is the Boeing proposal for the ATF and reportedly it did impress the Air Force during the competition. Where did you find this 4-view? I’ve only the three-quarters view at bottom.
Aerospacetech, a full-scale mock-up was built? Where is it? And why not show it to the public?
I don’t understand the continued secrecy surrounding this project.
–Gavin.
OK, Forktaileddevil … If self-preservation wasn’t important to me, I’d have to go with the Fulcrum because it is such a beautiful machine. But self-preservation doesn’t sound so bad to me!
Also, it must be very exciting to be a pilot in China right now, with the rapid progress that is being made there. You asked what would make us the proudest to fly? I’m sure I would be very proud to be part of this fighter’s introduction to service.
This is a great question … and I guess it would depend on whether you want a fantasy answer or a practical one.
I have always been particularly fascinated by MiG fighters. So in a fantasy world, I would want to fly the Fulcum or the Fishbed, maybe even chase Sabre jets in a MiG-15.
But honestly, in the real world, if I was flying into combat and putting my life on the line … I’d probably want to be in the F-22, wouldn’t I?
–Gavin.
Similar, indeed. But the MBB Lampyridae featured a single vertical tail and a larger air intake. Too bad the Germans never actually flew this plane.
Also, notice that it is design for only one engine, not two like the YF-23.
The planform is similar to the Black Widow, but notice the chin intake. It’s definitely not the Widow.
Coach seems to know the name of it, but what is it for? Just testing, or is this project for real?
–Gavin.
Joe, can you explain what the “assesement phase” will include? Are we talking about wind tunnel models? Or just trade studies? I assume it DOESN”T mean prototype constuction … but maybe large-scale mockups?
–Gavin.
Oops … that wasn’t it. Sorry. Here it is …
Well, the BAe photo was too large to post, so here’s another one I found at airforce-technology.com.
This is **** Hardy, ATF program director for Boeing, explaining why designers chose a diamond wing for the F-22. The quote was taken from the October 1998 issue of Code One magazine.
“The structural engineers wanted a diamond wing because it provides a larger root chord, which carries bending moments better,” Hardy notes. “The aerodynamicists wanted a trapezoidal wing because it provides more aspect ratio, which is good for aerodynamics. **** Heppe, the president of Lockheed California Company, made the final decision, and he was right. The aerodynamics were not all that different, but the structure and weights were significantly better. So we went to a diamond shape. The big root chord, though, moved the tails back. Eventually we even had to notch the wing for the front of the tails. If the tails moved farther back, they would fall off the airplane.”
OK … maybe this one? But it still doesn’t match the description of “tailess” … I would think the article would mention the canards. And according to some sources, this supposedly was Yak’s proposal for the MFI program …
–Gavin.
Do you mean this design? It doesn’t match the description either … and besides, it’s identified as the LFI project, which came years later.
–Gavin.
The X2 acheived “sustained” Mach 1.14 in March 1969. As far as I know it was in level flight.
Arthur, have you ever seen information about the VJ-101’s endurance or weapon load? Just curious.
–Gavin.