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  • in reply to: the best never operational #2667903
    Gavin.O
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    I’m not sure the Yak-141 was the first v/stol to go supersonic. I believe that would be the German VJ-101, which would be another candidate for the “best never operational.”

    http://www.tomtom-net.de/resources/vj101/vj101.htm

    –Gavin.

    in reply to: Chinas F/A-22 #2671721
    Gavin.O
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    Plawolf, I assume the “other model” being tested might be Chengdu’s canard-delta planform?

    I’d like to repeat my request: Doesn’t somebody have a picture of that wind tunnel model with a view of the top? Or at least a drawing or CG that speculates about how it might look?

    in reply to: Chinas F/A-22 #2672489
    Gavin.O
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    Are there any photos of the XXJ wind tunnel model that show the top side of the model? Any idea what the tail configuration is?

    Surely somebody has done some concept drawings or CG based on this model?

    –Gavin.

    in reply to: Best Aircraft never to enter service #2673673
    Gavin.O
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    For the bomber role, I would like to nominate the Sukhoi T-4MS, the plane Russia should have built instead of the Tu-160.

    And for the strike role, how about Daniel Raymer’s concept for a Next Generation Attack Fighter. This might be “cheating” a little because it was never really intended to be built. It was simply a study leading up to the JSF program … but I think the concept would have made a great aircraft.

    –Gavin.

    in reply to: the other ATF condenders – 3 side drawings ! #2674327
    Gavin.O
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    Aerospacetech, the link I provided doesn’t mention the name CL-1980, but it does say this: “Lockheed believed high speed and the ability to carry long-range weapons were key to the ATF mission, so its original concept was derived from the YF-12A.”

    The so-called CL-1980 in the drawing certainly looks like an F-12 derivitive.

    And apparently the plane was originally intended for the Navy: “Lockheed had done the first studies by the early 1970s for a ‘superstealth’ air-to-ground attack airplane for the US Navy.”

    in reply to: the other ATF condenders – 3 side drawings ! #2674339
    Gavin.O
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    Deino, thanks for the drawings. Could you tell me where to find the “what-if” site? I’ve done some modeling of “never built” aircraft, and I’d be interesting in seeing that forum.

    Here’s a link to another site that has some information and photos of ATF proposals.

    http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0021a.shtml

    in reply to: "MiG-33" and Yak-43 #2677672
    Gavin.O
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    “But as the 1.44 prototype never was intended to be fitted with operational equipment, why was it then (apparently) built with conformal AAM carriages in the first place?”

    Here’s a theory that I’ve seen at other aviation forums, although I don’t know how legitimate the idea is: The production MFI would have carried AAMs inside conformal pods that would have completely encassed the weapons. The pod presumably would be jettisoned after the AAM is launched.

    According to this theory, the conformal pods would have been a stealthy way to carry the weapons, without resorting to an internal weapons bay.

    I’ve never quite known what to think of that theory …. but who knows?

    –Gavin.

    in reply to: "MiG-33" and Yak-43 #2678120
    Gavin.O
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    That’s an interesting photo, and that wind tunnel model might very well have been part of the MFI project. But there are so many significant differences between it and the 1.44 that I would hesitate to draw any conclusions. The forward fuselage has a pronounced “duckbill” shape that reminds me of the MiG-27, while the 1.44 had a conical shape. And Meteorite is correct, the LERX does not seem to allow for canards. This might be a photo of an early configuration that was tested but then discarded.

    I can, however, see the influence of this model on Aerospacetech’s concept drawing … If he ever makes a 3-view, I hope he will post and share.

    –Gavin.

    in reply to: "MiG-33" and Yak-43 #2678366
    Gavin.O
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    A question for SOC: If there’s a picture of the 1.42’s intake configuration, can you post it? I haven’t seen such a thing.

    And a question for Aerospacetech: Have you done a full 3-view of “your” 1.42? The planform reminds me a little of Lockheed’s early ATF proposal.

    –Gavin.

    in reply to: "MiG-33" and Yak-43 #2679439
    Gavin.O
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    Aerospacetech, thanks for yet another fascinating post … To me, these photos simply add to the mystery of the MiG-1.42. This design proves that MiG had a much more sophisticated grasp of stealth technology than you would think from just seeing the 1.42/1.44. Maybe some day MiG will show us what the real MFI would have looked like.

    in reply to: "MiG-33" and Yak-43 #2689243
    Gavin.O
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    Indeed, at first glance, the Yak design seemed to have a lot of potential. Not only does it look stealthier than MiG’s MFI, the bifurcated intake presumably would have allowed an interal weapons bay.

    I wonder if it was intended to have v/stol capability. That might explain the choice of using only one engine.

    Are you sure it was an MFI contender? The scale and configuration looks very similar to an early Lockheed mockup for the JSF. The Russian equivalent would have been the LFI, not MFI.

    Either, it’s shame this plane will never fly.

    –Gavin.

    P.S. — I registered at ACIG a while ago, but I got frustrated that nobody ever seemed to respond to my posts … oh well.

    in reply to: "MiG-33" and Yak-43 #2689279
    Gavin.O
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    Aerospacetech, I sincerely want to thank you.

    –Gavin.

    in reply to: "MiG-33" and Yak-43 #2689312
    Gavin.O
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    A question for Aerospacetech

    Aerospacetech,

    I registered for this forum just so I could ask you about Yak’s MFI proposal, so I hope you will respond.

    That is the first picture I have seen of Yak’s project. Do you have any more photos or information? It looks very similar to the MiG-1.42/.44, but I cannot see the configuration of the air intake.

    Any additional info would be appreciated … for a long time I have been fascinated by Russia’s MFI program.

    Thanks.

    –Gavin.

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