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  • in reply to: Japanese Aerospace fading giant or reviving monster? #2627696
    Don Chan
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    ] Im sure the Japanese industries know it too, they just accept that the
    ] government (taxpayers) are bound to pay for this gross ineficiency.. I’m happy
    ] I’m not a Japanese taxpayer.. 😉

    FYI, a few years ago, when I was playing the computer war game Gaika no Gouhou: Air Land Force, I researched the prices of some British, German, Japanese, Russian, and US military vehicles, for fun.

    Fighter:
    F-2 Viper-Zero: 12 billion Yen, or $101.4 million at
    118 Yen/US$1.

    A-10/OA-10 Thunderbolt II: $9.8 million (FY (Fiscal
    Year) 1998 constant dollars).
    AV-8B Harrier II: $23.7 (to $27.7) million.
    Eurofighter Typhoon: 80 million Euros, or $96 million
    (May 2004).
    F-14 Tomcat: $38 million.
    F-15E Strike Eagle: $31.1 million (FY 1998 constant
    dollars).
    F-16 Fighting Falcon: F-16A/B, $14.6 million (FY 1998
    constant dollars); F-16C/D, $18.8 million (FY 1998 constant
    dollars).
    F/A-18A/C/CN Hornet: ($24 to) $28.1 million.
    F/A-22 Raptor: ($92.4, $124, $133.6, $180, $240, to
    $258 million).
    F-35B Joint Strike Fighter: $45.3 million (2005).
    F-35C Joint Strike Fighter: $47.4 million (2005).
    F-111F Aardvark: ($18 million).
    F-117A Nighthawk: $45 million.
    Jaguar: 25 million Pounds.
    Tornado: 15 million Pounds.

    MBT:
    Type 74 TK: 395 million Yen, or $3.34 million at 118
    Yen/US$1.
    Type 90 TK: 910 million Yen, or $7.71 million at 118
    Yen/US$1.

    M1A1 Abrams: $4.3 million.
    M1A2 Abrams: $5.9 million.

    Mobile AA gun:
    Type 87 AW: 155 million Yen, or $1.31 million at 118
    Yen/US$1.

    M1097 Avenger: $617,000.
    MIM-23 Hawk: $25 million.
    MIM-104 Patriot: $2 to $3 million per PAC-3 missile, or
    $750,000 per PAC-2 missile. $225 million per PAC-3 battery.

    IFV:
    Type 89 FV: 678 million Yen, or $5.74 million at 118
    Yen/US$1.

    AAVP7A1: ($2.2 to) $2.5 million.
    LAV-25 Piranha: $900,000.
    M2A1 Bradley: $3.2 million.

    in reply to: PARIS AIRSHOW 2005 #2627705
    Don Chan
    Participant

    Incidentally, how do the Chinese fighters go to France and back?
    By in-flight refuelling? Or by An-124/An-225?

    in reply to: Thunderbirds display team gets a female pilot #2628005
    Don Chan
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    ] Thunderbirds display team gets a female pilot

    “Aozora Shoujotai: 801 TTS”, based on the Japanese comic series of the same title by Shimizu Toshimitsu,
    http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~reirei/comics/comics-e.html
    was a Japanese cartoon series about a fictional JASDF air demo squadron, the 801st Tactical Training Squadron “Airbats”, based at (IIRC) Iruma AB.
    (Yes, years ago, I watched this series for the aircraft, not for the heroines.)

    *SPOILER ALERT*

    *SPOILER ALERT*

    *SPOILER ALERT*

    Coincidentally, in episode 5, the USAF Thunderbirds came to town, led by a female pilot with red (not pink) hair.
    She accidentally injured herself, but the show must go on, so one of the male JASDF pilots had to immediately train with the other Thunderbirds for the up-coming air show.
    http://anime.shinryuu.com/cgi-bin/anime/epiguidecgi.pl?8000
    http://www.panic-web.net/i-shop/cel/aozorashoujotai/aozorashoujotai2.htm
    http://www.themanime.org/viewreview.php?id=8

    Don Chan
    Participant

    ] 27 September 1977:
    ] An US RF-4B crashed in Edachou, Midori Ku (now Aoba Ku), Yokohama City, Kanagawa Prefecture.

    A couple days ago, I was re-reading some circa 1984 mags, and noticed a cartoon movie titled “Papa Mama Bye Bye”, about the two kids killed by this USMC RF-4B Phantom II crash, opened in Japanese cinemas on 14 July 1984.

    (The Japanese newspaper Ryukyu Shimpo, on 19 September 2004, had an article at
    http://www.ryukyushimpo.co.jp/news01/today/040919b.html
    about a woman, Shiiba Etsuko, who on 13 August 2004, visited the site of the CH-53D crash in Ginowan City, Okinawa Prefecture. She was a victim of the USMC RF-4B crash.

    On 27 September 1977, an USMC RF-4B took off from Atsugi AB, Kanagawa Prefecture, had an engine fire, and crashed.
    In the burning residential area, nine persons were heavily wounded. Two children died the next day. Four years later, the two children’s mother, still under medical treatment, also died.)

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2628874
    Don Chan
    Participant

    ] Are they still building the Q-5?

    FYI,
    http://jiatelin.jschina.com.cn/pla/q5.htm
    http://jiatelin.jschina.com.cn/pla/q5_2.htm
    are a two-page article about the Q-5 programme, up to late 2004, with a lot of photos.
    The conclusion is although the Q-5 is cheap, it’s obsolete, and will be phased out by the FC-1, JH-7, and J-10.

    Also,
    http://www.zgjunshi.com/power/Article_Class0.asp
    is a comprehensive, quick reference for practically all Chinese and Taiwanese military hardware, from ships to missiles to hand guns.

    Don Chan
    Participant

    In the Chinese (China) news site Sohu.com, an article dated 2005.06.15 at
    http://news.sohu.com/20050615/n225947296.shtml
    reported:

    On 20 May 2005, about 12:22, a PLAAF two-seat test aircraft almost lost control, recovered, and returned to Yan Liang AB, near Xi An.

    The test aircraft was a “become stable aircraft” (literally translated), formally called an “Integrated In-Flight Simulation Test Aircraft”. It is a domestically produced, second-generation “become stable aircraft”, with the ability to “become stable” in climb-dive, roll, and yaw.
    Its two crew weren’t wounded: Special Class Test Pilot LI Zhong Hua, and LIANG Jian Feng.

    About 12:00, they were executing some “pilot induced oscillation sensitivity classification” tests.
    At 12:22, during the third test, the aircraft, flown by Liang, suddenly lost control and rolled to its right. Its nose pointed to the upper right, then down, into an inverted dive.
    The aircraft was at height 400 m, and Liang couldn’t recover it.
    Li told Liang that he (Li) was taking over the controls. Li switched off the control system power, stability computer power, stability display system power, and main power.
    The aircraft returned to manual control. It was at height 200 m, and Li recovered it in six seconds.
    With no electric power and display, Li brought it back to the ground.
    Li is reportedly one of the three “international test pilots” in the PLAAF.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2629368
    Don Chan
    Participant

    ] Gun is at the bottom of the intake.

    Oh. That’s its cannon. Expected an internal gun, like on the F-16 and Typhoon, and thought that was another pitot tube or probe.

    in reply to: PLA aircraft official nicknames #2629642
    Don Chan
    Participant

    On second thought, has the NATO ASCC (Air Standards Co-ordinating Committee) assigned code names to the new PLAAF aircraft, such as the FC-1/JF-17, J-10, and JH-7/FBC-1?

    Or, will NATO use their domestic or export names, when available, such as Thunder for the FC-1/JF-17?

    And I guess the J-11 will inherit the Flanker label, along with the Su-27SK/Su-30MKK/Su-30MK2?

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2629649
    Don Chan
    Participant

    ] J-8 clear photo with interior engine shown.

    FWIW, the slogan on the hangar door says:
    “Operating against regulations is thus committing crime.”
    Most encouraging, IMO.

    Seriously, my dumb question of the week: on the J-10, where is the cannon mounted?
    I am guessing: on the left side, under the canard, beside the intake?

    Don Chan
    Participant

    http://mil.fjii.com/2004-06-01/12075.htm
    reported:

    On 15 April 2004 (not 2005), a PLAAF aircraft made an emergency landing, after an aborted test flight.

    It belonged to the Bei Jing military district.
    Its test pilot was YANG Ji Bing.
    At 15:25, it took off and climbed to about 10,000 m.
    At 15:31, when it was ready for an acceleration test, it had an explosion sound and its canopy shattered.
    Yang concentrated on the instrument panel, throttled back, lowered flaps, lowered his seat, descended, and reported to the control tower.
    En route to home base, he had to fly over Tai Hang Shan mountain. The control tower commanded him to keep his attitude at 4,000 and to descend only after he left the mountain.
    At 15:35, he arrived at the AB, lowered the landing gear, but couldn’t clearly see the runway. He requested the control tower to guide him through the landing. The control tower provided and corrected his heading, height, and speed.
    At 15:40, he successfully made the emergency landing.

    http://mil.fjii.com/2004-02-08/10232.htm
    reported:

    On 2 February 2004 (not 2005), at night, a PLAAF bomber made an emergency landing, without one landing gear.

    It belonged to the Lan Zhou military district.
    Its six crew: pilot LIU Cheng Gong, co-pilot ZHONG Jin, navigator HU Zong Biao, second navigator LIU Lu Jun, rear cabin gunner ZHANG Xiang Jiang, and communications operator LIU Jian Jun.
    At 19:25, it took off for a long-range training sortie.
    After 19 minutes, when it entered its planned course, it had an explosion sound, shook, and its flight parameters changed.
    The control tower received its report, and after some brief checking, commanded it to abort its sortie and RTB.
    After half an hour, it arrived at the AB. Because it was heavier than the landing requirements, the control tower commaned it to circle around at 2,000 m to burn up fuel.
    At 20:50, it reached the weight allowed for an emergency landing, entered the landing pattern, and lowered its landing gear. But the indication lights, well, indicated its left landing gear wasn’t lowered, and the six crew’s pucker factor increased.
    It raised and lowered the landing gear, but no joy. Used the emergency switch, but no joy. (Rocked and) rolled left and right, but no joy. Dived to 100 m, then suddenly climbed, but no joy.
    It circled around in the landing pattern for 10+ times, and attempted various emergency procedures for 30+ times, but the left landing gear didn’t move.
    They decided the last method, to land with one landing gear.
    It continued to circle around in the landing pattern to burn up fuel.
    Upper echelon officers were alerted. Ambulances, fire trucks, and tow trucks were mobilised. Diversion APs were prepared.
    At 22:57, with minimum fuel for landing, it made the emergency landing.
    It eventually tilted and stopped beside the runway. Its crew shut down the engines, switched off the generators, and got out by themselves.

    http://mil.fjii.com/2004-07-28/13172.htm
    reported:

    On 17 April 1969 (yes, 1969), a PLAAF fighter, serial number 03, made an emergency landing outside an AB or AP.

    It belonged to a division in the Bei Jing military district.
    Its pilot was CHEN Fu Tian, who then had 1,073 flight hours.
    At 12:18, it took off.
    At 12:36, at height 4,800 m, while manoeuvring, its engine flamed out. Chen reported to the control tower, and attempted to restart the engine, but failed.
    The control tower commanded him to bail out, but he decided to attempt an emergency landing. He was south of the AB, and he decided to not circle around and RTB.
    He knew in Huai Lai county, 30 km south of the AB, the Da Yang He river and Sang Gan He river meet in the Xin Bao An area, and should have some beach-like riverbeds where he could land.
    He flew/glided towards the Sang Gan He river, and found some wide beaches. He looked for the best beach, and concentrated to not flip or impale into the sand.
    At 12:38, he suddenly saw some fishermen, well, fishing in the river, so he banked left 15 degrees and successfully made the emergency landing.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2630233
    Don Chan
    Participant

    This is a movie. In Chinese, the name of this movie is like “Up and Away, Flying Leopard”. I don’t know if it has an official translation. But I think you can’t miss this movie by the cover photo on DVD/VCD box.

    Chong Tian Fei Bao, and
    http://movie.cnnet.com/show/china/200103220006.htm
    has its overview and screen shots.

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 7 #2630237
    Don Chan
    Participant

    Does anyone know if … and evtl. what Chinese aircraft will be at the Paris-airshow this year ????

    See
    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=681189#post681189

    in reply to: Short review of the J-10A kit from Trumpeter in 1/72 #233803
    Don Chan
    Participant

    ] I’ve seen a TV ad by Greer, a major Chinese appliance maker, using J-10 like planes in CG in their ads.

    I also remember watching on Chinese TV a commercial that featured a flight of J-10s, but I was busy gawking at the J-10s to memorise the brand name. So, according to a post dated July 2002, such as at
    http://mil.fjii.com/2002-07-15/1200.htm
    it was a TV commercial for the Da Hong Ying (Big Red Eagle) Group, of Ning Bo City, Zhe Jiang Province, which is into biologics, food, education, and medicines. It has a few sites, such as
    http://www.dhyinvest.com/
    http://www.nbdhy.com/indexe.htm
    but (grumble) I haven’t found a big, clear pic of the CG J-10s, except a small pic at
    http://www.cnad.com/hot/10pmad/img/yemaozhong/zhupingmian/0001.jpg

    Don Chan
    Participant

    A personal site in Japanese at
    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko_05.html
    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko_04.html
    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko_03.html
    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko_02.html
    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko_01.html
    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko_00.html
    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko_99.html
    have tables of JSDF and US military aircraft accidents and crashes, from 1999 to 2005, in Japan.

    4 October 2004:
    About 14:45, two USAF F-15C, number 85-0093 and 85-0098, collided, about 200 km south of Okinawa Island, Okinawa Prefecture.
    They belonged to the 12th Fighter Squadron, home-based at Elmendorf AFB, USA.
    About 14:53, both fighters made emergency landings at Kadena AB.
    The pilots were not wounded.
    On 85-0093, its left wing and left horizontal stabiliser were damaged.
    On 85-0098, its right tail fin lost its top 1/4, and its left tail fin lost its top 1/3.

    13 September 2004:
    A JASDF F-4EJ Kai, number 17-8302, dropped its rear canopy, into the ocean, soon after it took off at 8:52 from Naha AB, Okinawa Prefecture.
    It belonged to the 302nd Hikoutai.
    It returned to base and made emergency landing. The runway was closed for some minutes, affecting seven civilian flights.
    The canopy was found in the ocean, about 5 km south of Naha AB.

    19 August 2004:
    About 9:57, an USAF UH-1N, number 69-6639, made emergency landing at a heliport in the Rinkou Park, Minato Mira, Yokohama City, Kanagawa Prefecture.
    Its seven crew were not wounded.
    It belonged to the 459th Airlift Squadron, 374th Airlift Wing, based at Yokota AB.
    About 9:30, it took off from Yokota AB, flew about, and was returning to base when it had engine problem.
    The engine problem could not be fixed at the heliport. A barge with a crane, number YCV-19, came from Yokosuka USN Base, and took the helicopter to the Yokohama North Dock.

    http://www.geocities.jp/hggcm317/jiko2004usaf.html
    has a photo of the accident aircraft.

    13 August 2004:
    About 14:15, an USMC CH-53D, number 157742, crashed and caught fire in the Okinawa International University campus in Ginowan City, Okinawa Prefecture.
    It belonged to HMM-256.
    Its three crew: one heavily wounded, two lightly wounded.
    It took off from and was returning to MCAS Futenma.
    About 21:00, the USMC chief commander and the US ambassador in Japan went to the Okinawa prefectural government and apologised.
    On 16-17 August 2004, a trailer truck took the wreck to MCAS Futenma.

    21 July 2004:
    A JGSDF AH-1S, number 73458, crashed in the Kita Fuji Enshuujou (North Fuji Exercise Range), near Fuji Yoshida City, Yamanashi Prefecture.
    It belonged to the 4th Tai Sensha Helicopter Tai.
    Its two crew: one was lightly wounded and taken to hospital.
    It landed on its left side in a forest.
    Its rotor blades and vertical fin were damaged.

    12 July 2004:
    A JASDF F-4EJ Kai, number 47-8338, was taking off at Nyuutabaru AB, when it spinned around and stopped partly outside the runway.
    It belonged to the 302nd Hikoutai.
    Its two crew were lightly wounded.
    Fire trucks extinguished its fire.

    24 June 2004:
    About 10:00, a JASDF T-4, number 16-5657, dropped its wing-mounted fuel tanks, into the sea about 63 km north of Komatsu AB.
    It belonged to Komatsu AB.
    At 9:52, it took off from Komatsu AB for a training sortie.
    It entered G Training Area, and about 10:02, it dropped its left wing-mounted fuel tank. While loitering in the area to assess the circumstances, it dropped its right wing-mounted fuel tank. Then it returned to base.
    After noon, an U-125A SAR plane found one fuel tank, and the fin(s) of the other fuel tank, in that area. The Japan Coast Guard patrol vessel Kurobe recovered them.

    18 June 2004:
    About 9:10, a JGSDF UH-1H crashed in a forest in Saigouchou, Shimane Prefecture.
    It belonged to the Chuubu Houmen Koukuutai, based at Yao JGSDF Base.
    It landed on its side and caught fire.
    Its four crew left the helicopter before it caught fire, and were lightly wounded.
    It was one of two helicopters that took off from Miho AB, and flying to Oki AP.
    Local weather was heavy rain, visibility 1 km, and wind speed 7 m from the south.

    23 February 2004:
    About 9:55, two JGSDF AH-1S, number JG-3454 and JG-3474, collided and crashed above Aomineyama (peak height 336 m), between Toba City and Isobemachi, Mie Prefecture.
    They belonged to Akeno JGSDF Base.
    On JG-3454, Captain Nakata Katsuya (47) and 1st Lieutenant Takase Seiki (29) were killed.
    On JG-3474, Captain Yagi Masataka (30) and trainee Captain Itou Hideyuki (41) were heavily wounded.
    Tsu City reported local weather was strong winds. Toba City reported local weather was wind speed 7 m.

    21 May 2003:
    About 11:25, a JMSDF U-36A, number 9202, crashed, at Iwakuni AB, while practising take off and landing.
    It belonged to the 91st Koukuutai, 31st Koukuugun, based at Iwakuni AB.
    It landed on its side and caught fire.
    Its four crew were killed: pilot Lieutenant Junior Grade Hasegawa Masanori (27), co-pilot Ensign Miura Masakazu (25), Midshipman Kawabe Gen (52), Petty Officer Third Class Honda Takuto (20).
    At 9:00, it took off, and flew above the Japan Sea until 10:45.
    Then it returned to base and practised take off and landing.
    Local weather was windless, and the aircraft had no mechanical problem.
    The JMSDF concluded the cause as turbulence left by an US-1A that was also practising touch-and-go on the runway, 28 seconds before the accident.

    26 January 2003:
    An USAF U-2S crashed in ROK.
    (Details skipped.)
    On 19 June 2003, the USAF accident report concluded the cause as engine problem.

    14 September 2001:
    About 11:50, JMSDF T-5 trainer, number 6331, disappeared above the Kanmon Oohashi bridge in the Kanmon Strait, near Shimonoseki City, Yamaguchi Prefecture.
    It belonged to the 201st Kyouiku Koukuutai, Oduki Kyoukuugun, JMSDF.
    JMSDF UH-60J and vessels, and JASDF Ashiya Kyuunantai MU-2 and V-107 searched for it.
    At 9:15, it took off from Oduki AB, but was returning to base because of poor weather: visibility 3-4 km, ceiling 1,500 feet.
    On 15 September 2001, at 7:37, its wreck was found on Ryoujusen mountain, about 5 km north of the Kanmon Oohashi bridge.
    Its three crew: instructor Lieutenant Mori Yoshiyuki (34) and student Petty Officer Third Class Ogura Keishi (20) were killed, student Petty Officer Third Class Soejima Daisuke (21) was heavily wounded.

    25 June 2001:
    About 10:55, a JASDF F-4EJ Kai accidentally fired its cannon. While launching rockets in the Shimamatsu Firing Range northwest of Chitose City, Hokkaidou, the cannon fired almost 200 practice rounds.
    Some rounds landed outside the firing range, and hit Kitahiroshima City.

    14 February 2001:
    About 18:17, a JGSDF AH-1S, number 73463, and a JGSDF OH-6D, number 31260, collided, near the Anesaki Sodegaura IC (interchange) of the Tateyama highway in Amouda, Ichihara City, Chiba Prefecture.
    Both belonged to the 4th Tai Sensha Helicopter Tai.
    The OH-6D crashed.
    Its two crew were killed: pilot Lieutenant Colonel Takaogi Yasunori and Master Sergeant Shimodate Satoshi.
    The AH-1S returned to Kisaradu Base. Its front, cannon, and canopy were damaged.
    About 17:00, the OH-6D took off from Kisaradu Base, and planned to fly to Odawara, Kanagawa Prefecture, then return to Kisaradu Base, then fly to Asaka City, Saitama Prefecture. But because Odawara was foggy, it first flew to Asaka City, then landed at Kisaradu Base. It took off and was flying towards Yotsukaidou City, when it collided with an AH-1S that completed its training sortie.
    Local weather near Kisaradu City was ceiling 800 m, visibility above 10 km.

    28 June 2000:
    In the afternoon, a JASDF C-1 crashed, about 50 km north-northwest of Oki Island, during a test flight after a scheduled maintenance.
    Its five crew were killed.

    On 16 March 2001, the JASDF accident report concluded it was near its stall speed and checking its mechanical operation when it lost its posture and could not recover.
    The recovered wreck and parts had no aberration. Weather was no problem.
    According to the test flight check list and radar data, the aircraft was at height 4,000 m and speed 210 km/h, to check its stall warning system. Its nose was at above 10 degrees angle before it lost its posture.

    22 November 1999:
    In the afternoon, a JASDF T-33A crashed, on a flood plain of the Irumagawa river, near Sayama City, Saitama Prefecture.
    It belonged to the Koukuu Soutai Shireibu Hikoutai (Air Defence Command Headquarters Flight Group), based at Iruma AB.
    About 13:43, it was returning to base, after a flight to maintain the pilot’s proficiency.
    The crew reported smoke in the aircraft and announced they would bail out, but it crashed about 1.6 miles north of the north end of the runway at Iruma AB.
    While it was preparing to land and at low thrust, the fuel hose, or the fitting that connected the fuel hose, leaked fuel. The fuel caught fire near the fuel control unit, and heated and melted the unit. This cut the fuel supply to the engine, and it lost thrust.
    To avoid crashing the aircraft into a dense residential area, the crew remained in the aircraft until it reached a height and speed that were not appropriate for safe ejection. When they ejected, they did not survive.

    On 26 April 2000, the JASDF accident report concluded the cost to enhance the T-33A and resume its flight status would be unpractical, and decided to retire the T-33A.

    (Sigh. One of these days, I’ll combine these separate lists that I’m cross-posting for a female friend.)

    in reply to: Transcripts of fighter pilots' radio dialogue #2631719
    Don Chan
    Participant

    Bingo!

    http://www.atwar.net/content.php?article.138
    has apparently an audio file, movie file, and text transcript (!) of the dogfight. 8) And
    http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Gulf%20of%20Sidra%20incident%20%281989%29
    has a summary of the dogfight.

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