Happening to me as well, its a real pain
It is definitely to do with airflow from the Props, Hence the Riley Dove has swapped the side of the asymmetrical elevator
There is an airworthy Sea Devon here in Australia and a Riley Conversion flying in the states, lots of photos of the Riley at Oshkosh this year
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154665597225966&set=a.10154655828230966.1073741946.527160965&type=3
Also notice the Navajo, early Cheyenne proto?
Wow, didn’t see that coming
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I would not say its substantially intact though
One of the former airspray A-26’s in here in Australia I believe.
https://www.facebook.com/ReeversWarbirds/
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Hi All,
it is from a MK 6 onwards, there were a few options though.
MK.6 below
MK.5 below
Mk.8
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Not Riley, Below, McAlpine version
And Riley USA Version
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Very nice Moggy:cool:
Hi All,
Wondering if anyone has a electronic copy of a Dove & Gipsy Queen 70 series parts listing or catalog, either scanned PDF or spreadsheet with numbers + description.
It Will save me a lot of work!

Now that would be cost saving if they used Dove doors on 111’s!
I cannot find any numbers on them.

there is a tapered shaft inside.
Hi All,
As we head in to the final hour of the kickstarter campaign I would like to thank those whom have pledged their hard earned.
The Kickstarter whilst not raising the funds hoped has exposed the group to a wider audience and has hopefully sparked others to get out in to the aviation preservation collective.
Thank you.
Looks like Dove wheels but their number is AH8176 in my parts catalogue
Hi All,
10 days to go, a big thanks to those who have pledged,
We still have a long way to go to be successful so please pledge, share, do what ever you can to spread the word.
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Here is another tale of “MG” from Andrew Lawson.
For our little adventure into head on photography of following aircraft we of course removed the upper escape hatch before take off, I had my sailing dinghy trapeze harness on, with the hook wirelocked shut and a line tied to it, led to a seat mounting with a friend tailing on the end.
I was given a fast jet crash helmet and smoke-proof goggles, but sadly no intercom so we started at I think 120 kts, then the pilot ( ex Gnat Test Pilot Mike Oliver ) asked my chum if I was happy, I’d say yes and we went up another 10 knots, up to 150.
I had been giving the usual hand directions to the PA-44 Seminole behind – as we were in slight cloud the photo’s were useless so I won’t bother you with them – and by 150 kts it was near impossible to raise my hand without it being whipped aft, but the idea certainly worked and I was keen to try it with a Harrier or Hawk; our ‘ rival ‘ photographic outfit at BAe Kingston were dismayed as they always tried to monopolise air to air work and this would give the elusive head on shots, but sadly MG was sold at that point.
The Dove escape hatch experiment must have struck a chord as when I took voluntary redundancy years later ( the accountants had arrived in charge of BAe, and as I’d grown up at Dunsfold since a young boy going around the golf course with my Father I said it was like seeing an old friend with a bad illness ) – Kingston photo in an extremely rare moment of kindness organised a spoof painting by a chap in Technical Publications as my leaving card.
All the best,
Andy
Hi All,
13 days to go,
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You might be wondering why we have a photo of a BAe Hawk in this post but it is for a good reason. This photo was taken from ZK-DHW when it was with British Aerospace registered as
G-ASMG. G-ASMG’s primary role was as a Communications Transport but it was also used as a air to air photography platform
Andrew Lawson has been kind enough to share some of his photos taken from G ASMG, I will let him take up the story.
“Hi,
In my time as a technical photographer at Dunsfold – 1979 -93 – BAe had a ‘ Communications Fleet ‘ of Doves for ferrying staff between the sites like Dunsfold, Hatfield, Brough & Warton.
We also had a PA-44 Seminole, G-BGCO.
Before G-ASMG, Dunsfold had a Dragon Rapide – which went into the little museum at Dunsfold for a while, along with aircraft like a Hawker Hart – sadly before my time.
The Dove was eventually replaced by a Jetsream – the appropriately registered G-BWWW, leased from the Distillers Group.
A major retrograde step in my opinion, as the Jetstream had nasty thick curved perspex windows and vibrated like mad, pretty useless for aerial photography unlike the Dove with the removable loo window and upper escape hatch.
MG was often flown by Mike Oliver, a Battle Of Britain City Of London Sqn Spitfire pilot, involved with the relief of Malta flying off the carrier ( HMS Courageous I think ) later Test Pilot on the Gnat & Midge – also racing driver, just to keep busy ! Great guy.
MG was also flown sometimes by Chris Darwin, ex-RN Phantom pilot, notable for his sense of humour – not averse to dogfights in the Dove & Seminole when given the chance to bounce RAF trainees in Hawks.
All the best,
Andy”
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