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  • in reply to: Best Fighter of the 70s #2486975
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    Viggen in the 70’s

    Just to clarify some things, The Fighter Version of Viggen (JA37) was developed and tested during the late 70’s but it only reached full operational status in the early 80’s.

    The first Squadron to receive the JA 37 was the Second Division Martin Blå of the F13 Wing in Norrköping and they received there first fighter’s in 1980.

    The main fighter during the 70’s in Sweden was J-35F Draken.

    J 35F Fighter version, delivered between 1965 and 1972, total production: 230. This variant had improved electronics and avionics, e.g. integrated radar, aim and missile systems. The aircraft’s main armament where IR and SARH versions of the Hughes Falcon missile originally intended for the J 35D , but one of the cannon was removed to give space for more avionics. The J 35F2 was a J 35F, produced with a Hughes Aircraft Company N71 infra red sensor, a so-called IR seeker. This was a change in the production line from the no 35501 airframe.

    So if it came to a shooting war in say in the late 70’s any interceptions or dog fights would most likely would have involved a J35 and not a AJ 37Viggen , Yes the AJ, Viggen had a dual role as a Air to Air fighter but it would only had been used as such in an emergency as there main tasking would have been supporting the Navy/Army with preventing any invasion fleet to come over from the eastern shores of the Baltic.

    Also the SH 37 Viggen version was wired to carry Sidewinders but there main tasking would have been Naval reconnaissance, same for the SF 37 Viggen

    SH 37
    The SH 37 was capable of carrying the same configuration of weapons as the AJ 37. However, since it was only used in the maritime role, only the RB 04E in combination with Rb 24/Rb 24J for self defense were employed.

    SF/SK 37
    Both the SF and SK variants lacked the radar and could not carry the guided air-to-surface missiles as the AJ and SH. The SF could carry Rb 24/Rb 24J for self defense though. The unguided cannon and rocket pods were also an option.

    in reply to: Venezuela 'sends tanks to border' #2491000
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    If this would turn into a shooting war!!!!

    If this would turn into a shooting war, I think the most important part would be Close air support and amount of helicopter forces available to each nation.

    Yes, the ideal situation would be air supremacy over the battlefield but I think that it would be very hard with the limited forces in the area for any of the nations to have a complete air supremacy over the battlefield.

    I think that the country that can support a sustained ground campaign would be the “winner”.

    But it does help to have a good and well equipped air force.

    All three countries have a number of fast jets with Venezuela coming out on top but what do we know about the service levels of these aircraft, there is no point having all the nice hardware if they cannot fly due to lack of spare parts.

    In addition, can any of the three countries sustain an air campaign say over a week, do they have the munitions stockpiled.

    All info below comes from http://armstrade.sipri.org/arms_trade/trade_register.php
    You can search for all main arms trade from 1950’s-2006/7

    Air munitions bought since 1980 Air to Air (have not found any AGM):

    Venezuela:
    20 AM-39 Exocet (Air launched to be used by Mirage 5) All delivered
    75 R-550 Magic-2 All delivered (1990)
    54 Python-4 All delivered (2004)
    150 R-73/AA-11 Archer (2006) (Limited number delivered)
    100 R-77/AA-12 Adder (2006) (Limited number delivered)
    75 AIM-9J/P Sidewinder (1983-1985) All delivered
    75 AIM-9L/M Sidewinder (1983-1985) All delivered

    Colombia:
    80 Shafrir-2 (1989-1990)

    Ecuador:
    70 Super-530F (1980-1982) All delivered
    60 Python-3 All delivered (1996)
    50 Python-4 All delivered (1999-2000)
    75 Shafrir-2 (1983-1984) All delivered

    Radar / Air Def systems since 1980

    Venezuela has bought the following systems since 1980:

    France:
    6 units Roland Shelter-based version (1985-1986) (125 units Roland-2 SAM delivered with launchers)

    Netherlands
    2 units Reporter Air surv radar(1999) (Guardian 40mm guns)

    18 units Flycatcher Air surv radar(1981-1983 )(For use with 36 Guardian 40mm AA guns)

    3 units Flycatcher Mk-2 Air surv radar – Part of Defender SAM system (with ADAMS launchers and 40 units Barak SAM from Israel)

    China
    3 units JYL-1 Air surv radar (2006)

    Sweden
    4 units Giraffe-75 Air surv radar for use with RBS-70 SAMs (400 missiles bought in 1990 – 2001 but I am unsure how many launcher units that was bought) Two batches of 200 each

    US
    1 Unit AN/TPS-43 Air surv radar (1985)

    Colombia has bought the following systems since 1980:

    US
    1 unit AN/TPS-70 Air surv radar (2001-2002)

    Netherlands
    3 units Skyguard Air surv radar used with AIM-7F Sparrow SAMs (1983-1985) (240 Units AIM-7F Sparrow bought)

    Ecuador has bought the following systems since 1980:

    France
    Mistral SAM (100 units to be used for navy but can be used on land as well) Unsure of number of launchers (1997-1998)

    Russia
    Igla-1/SA-16 Gimlet SAM (222 units) (1998)

    UK
    Blowpipe SAM (240units) (1981-1982)

    in reply to: American navy V european (joint) navy #2059788
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    American V european

    There is a book (fiction) that roughly has the same scenario,”Cauldron” by Larry Bond (The creator of Haproon , The game)

    (Synopsis
    With the world’s old alliances and economic order shattered by a ruinous trade war, France and Germany seize the chance to build a new European order. Poland and the Czech Republic stand in their way, and when America and Britain join them, northern Europe explodes into war)

    in reply to: HMS Härnösand (56K warning) #2059855
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    HMS Härnösand

    As far I know the Swedish Navy will get all six ships.

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    En qoute korvetten STOCKHOLM fick all att skratta så tårarna rann med följande uttalande:

    “Här åker man 1 200 distansminuter och det första man får se när man når skotska västkusten är att det myllrar med stridsbåtar och G-båtar!”

    Grodmarinen…. 😀 😀

    in reply to: HMS Härnösand (56K warning) #2059881
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    HMS Härnösand

    Most Swedish warships since the Destroyers where decommissioned in the early 80’s have had the Bofors 57mm/70 as its main gun. All the SPECIA I Class (Torpedo Boats), SPECIA II Class ( Norrköping Class FAC), Kaparen Class Patrol Boat, Stockholm Class Corvette, Göteborg Class Corvette and Visby Class Corvette.

    The Göteborg Class Corvette has a secondary 40mm/70 gun in the aft.

    The only new ships in the Swedish Navy that has the Bofors 40mm/70 as a main gun has been all the MCM ships and the Experimental Stealth Ship Smyge. Smyge had the 40mm/70 Trinity gun.

    in reply to: JMSDF Vs USN #2060428
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    JMSDF Vs USN

    just read Tom Clancy book “Executive Orders” and you will find out what will happen with Japan ……..

    in reply to: PN News #2064783
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    Pakistan Navy / marine force / Pakistan Marines

    Well, not really, I was on Guard duty that day I and they all arrived in a charted bus and the Swedish Navy CinC, arrived in a Black Volvo limo. They went straight to the exercise area after arriving, as far as I know they went on two Combat boats 90.

    They then came back a few hours later and had dinner at the Regimental Mess and they then left again by bus.

    That is when the only fun thing happened that day. They forgot one of the High ranking gentlemen in the mess when they left. (I heard afterwards that it was a General) He had been in the toilet and the bus just left him and then it left the regiment. As we always do we saluted the bus as it passed true the gate and about 10 min later the bus came flying back up the road again with the Volvo limo leading the charge, we saluted again and
    I could se a bit of commotion as the bus stopped on the exercise yard just next to the gate and all these High level Officers (Never seen so much Gold) left the bus started smoking and then from the path leading to the Mess a sorry looking General led by one of the Lt of the Amf Coy came half running down the path and then all the other officers started laughing and they all piled back in the bus and left the regiment and as always we saluted
    Once again. (They where all smiling on the bus when it passed true the Gate the 4th time that day)

    in reply to: PN News #2064795
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    Pakistan Navy / marine force / Pakistan Marines

    I remember when I was doing my military service in 1994-1995 that we had a visit at the regiment KA/1 (now Amf1) of High level Pakistani Military personal. If it was Navy or Army I don’t know.

    KA/1 is one of the Regiments that train the Swedish amphibious Bn and tin those day’s the Fixed Coast artillery Bn.

    And as far as I know they where there to view training exercise with a Costal Ranger Coy.

    They where also checking out the Swedish made Combat assault Boats (Stridsbåt 90) and various Hovercrafts based at KA/1

    link : http://www.amf1.mil.se/?lang=E

    in reply to: What's your favourite ship and why? #2070786
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    My Fav Ship

    YS2000 Korvett type Visby

    http://www.fmv.se/bilder/korvett/visby1.gif

    http://www.fmv.se/bilder/korvett/visby2.gif

    http://www.marinen.mil.se/images/local/miniatyr/korvett_visby_sprangskis.jpg

    in reply to: JDAM/JDAM (like) weapons on European fighters #2674858
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    Jdams in the world

    From FAS.

    As of late 2002 foreign sales included orders for 2,700 from Israel, 900 from Italy and export licenses for a total of 24 countries. An agreement with Europe’s MBDA would allow that company to build kits for European and Middle Eastern markets. Some estimates suggest the total numbers for foreign markets will be in the 50,000-60,000-unit range.

    http://www.fas.org

    in reply to: Questions about the AA-10 Alamo #2061613
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    AA-10 ALAMO R-27 IR Version’s

    All-aspect Infrared R-27T (70 km) Launch Weight 254 kg
    All-aspect Infrared R-27TE (120 km) Launch Weight 343 kg

    in reply to: Serbian Air Force and Air Defence modernisation #2675454
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    40mm L70 Bofors Akan

    Do anybody know if the 40mm L70 Bofors Akan is still in use with the Serbian Air defence forces or has it been decommissioned ?

    in reply to: Sweden Confirm Pakistan wants to buy Gripen Jets #2675504
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    For the Best Info about Jas 39 Gripen

    For the Best Info about Jas 39 Gripen

    http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/gripen/

    in reply to: Sweden Confirm Pakistan wants to buy Gripen Jets #2675566
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    JAS 39 Gripen – Industrial partners

    There is a number of Governments that need to give approval for a future sale of Gripen to Pakistan

    The Pakistani might be able to get the approval of Sweden,US and UK (BAE) but what about the German (Hydraulics: Abex, Germany) or Fuel system: Intertechnique, France, these two systems are kind of important for an aircraft and to find and install replacement systems would take to long and would most likely add a few millions to the price to the aircraft. And that does not take into account flight testing, prototypes and new software.

    Here is a list of some of the main Suppliers of the systems of the Jas 39 Gripen

     Presentation and recording systems, general and weapons computers, flight control actuators and air data sensors: Ericsson Saab Avionics
     Radar (PS-05/A) and system computers (SDS 801): Ericsson Microwave Systems
     Turn around, servicing, maintenance and testing equipment: Celsius Aerotech
     Engine: Volvo Aero Corporation in co-operation with General Electric
     Radar dome: Nobel Plastics
     Flight control system: Lockheed Martin, USA
     APU: Sundstrand, USA
     Landing Gear: BAE Systems, UK
     Main landing gear, wing attachment assembly of complete centre fuselages: BAE Systems, Brough, UK
     Main Landing Gear Unit (actually a large, major lower central section of the fuselage with lots of associated systems): Denel Aviation, South Africa. (from late 2001 for all Gripens)
     Fuel system: Intertechnique, France
     INS: Honeywell, USA
     ECM dispensers: CelsiusTech; Ericsson Saab Avionics is responsible for the EWS 39 system
     HUD: Kaiser, USA
     Radio: Rockwell, USA
     Hydraulics: Abex, Germany and Dowty, UK
     Generator: Sundstrand, USA
     Air and cooling: BAE Systems, UK
     Escape system: Martin Baker, UK
     Stores pylons for the export version: Denel Aviation, South Africa
     Airbrake and scoop actuators: Jihlavan a.s., The Czech Republic
     Parts of the tail cone: PZL, Poland
     Fuselage components: Danube Aerospace, Hungary

    in reply to: Sweden Confirm Pakistan wants to buy Gripen Jets #2675618
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    Pakistan Interested to by Jas 39

    Pakistan Interested to by Jas 39

    The Pakistani interest for Jas 39 Gripen was raised when President Musharraf meet Statsminister (Prime Minister) Göran Persson on Monday

    President Musharraf said during the Press conference that Pakistan are looking for a Future High Technology aircraft and Jas 39 Gripen was one of a number of alternatives

    The Swedish Statsminister (Prime Minister) Göran Persson pointed out that a eventual sale of Jas 39 Gripen was in the far future and he also pointed out that the days meeting had not been about the sale of Jas 39 Gripen to Pakistan

    Aftonbladet/TT 🙂

    http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/telegram/0,1082,63672724_852__,00.html
    (in Swedish)

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