Try finding someone to do it first!
Yeph, that is going to be the issue, finding someone that has the component approvals outside Rolls.
Two key phrases: “rubber coated diaphragm” and “not lifed by the manufacturer” – both need to be considered together, since I assume that this relates to engines where both statements are satisfied. I assume therefore that excluded engines (of all gas turbine types, including turboshaft and turboprop) either have lifed pump assemblies (not unusual in more modern engines) or do not feature this type of diaphragm.
No they don’t, the CAA have specified the engine types, probably as similar HP pumps and FCU systems are used on all of the engines specified. What is the important phrases IMHO are that the operators can prove that their engines and fitted components have been anti det run or inhibited correctly with records to prove as such since the retirement of the items from military service. If they cannot, the engine is not airworthy and is rejected from further use until it can be proven to be so with components that have known history and storage.
It refers to a range of engines with similar fuel pumps. The Bristol Siddeley Orpheus engine of the Gnat is not mentioned. The pump, I assume off the Shoreham Hunter was found to have deteriorated glands that could have affected the accurate fuel schedule thus the thrust demanded by the pilot. I would assume it would have been the LP booster pumps or perhaps the proportioners, not the engine HP pump. Any engine design must be designed to work at a minimum with the HP pump supplying fuel only. However as people have mentioned, the MPD mentions complete engine rejection for what is a fuel system issue? Must be an issue with the HP pump or the FCU.
Well done!
As a former 81st TFW officer, it’s fitting that one has gone “home”.
Recall in the 80s, the 81st TFW was the largest wing in the Air Force with at one time 6 squadrons from the “twin bases”. Two squadrons eventually moved to Alconbury when the F-5E equipped Aggressors converted to F-16s and moved to Bentwaters. Now if they could only get a H/MH-53 or HC-130 to recognize the rescue and Special Ops work done from Woodbridge.
I must visit the museum on my next visit to the UK, I’d like to take my old seat in the Command Post (plus I have some memorabilia they might like).
Sure Graham Haynes and the rest of the gang would be most welcoming of you.
Hey, Paul, you really shouldn’t take the BBP diary so much to heart. After all, the format is really designed to deliver what might otherwise be a terribly dreary subject in a more tongue in cheek way.
And, for the record, I love my dogs as much as the next bloke and they are as much a part of our family as the children. The problem is that we can’t have it both ways. We humanise them when we shouldn’t, the result being that we keep them going long after nature would have culled them until the day comes when we must take our best mate to the vets and do them the ultimate act of kindness. Having done that many times I can’t recall a single animal that would have wanted me to waste a second grieving when I could get a new pup and crack on. This is just my experience of keeping animals and if it differs from yours then please do as my good friends do and invite me to commit an act ending with the word ‘off’.And sincere thanks to everyone for their comments, good or bad, and for all the encouragement. We are all working damned hard over here these days to get the big tin boat ready. Sorry that we can’t give a ‘when’ but the simple truth is that we’ve not done one of these before but if we don’t give up we can’t fail. Stay with us and we’ll see you all in the beer tent in Coniston someday soon.
Bill Smith.
Thanks Bill. I get the same comments on XX741 in other places. I however have rebuilt the same frames before, however I don’t have all the bits I need or no idea when I can even get to the frame at the current time to work it! Also the BCWM has its A10 now and that is a priority project, seeing it is very BENTWATERS..
From your latest diatribe “There’s yet more. I met a bloke in the pub some months back, an older chap who’d had a mutt called Bruce that had died about six years earlier and at the time he’d decided against any more dogs. Fair enough. I could see him struggling with a vibrant young animal that may well outlive him but then he told me he’d had a change of heart and a new pup was about to join the family.
What had caused this turnaround, I asked… and you know when the answer is so removed from anything you might’ve expected that you wonder whether gasping incredulity would be less offensive than an obviously failed effort to suppress it?
“We thought enough time had passed so as not to offend Bruce’s memory…”
Such people should be permanently disbarred from ever owning any sort of pet!”
Your opinion but I understand and agree with the man on this as I know certain members on here would as well
Perhaps your attempts at humour should be left to others and you should limit your Diary to restoring the wreckage as you don’t have the Barracuda any more I would expect this project to gain some momentum.
As a matter of interest do you have any sort of completion date a year or two either way maybe? I await your when its done its done answer.
What a really constructive post. Not. Bill can put what he likes in his posts. Are you actually restoring anything Paul 178? Please tell us so we have no reason to treat your post with the contempt it deserves.
So why does the CAA think they need to be involved in this? The real experts of risk assessment are insurance companies, and they price their premiums accordingly.
Public liability coverage for an airshow pre-Shoreham was at £50 to 100 million for even a small provincial show precisely because the insurers had already taken into account the risk to non-attending public that the CAA had ignored all these years.
Suddenly the CAA decides that something Has to Be Done, and of course They will be the ones to Do It. Even though they’re not yet sure what exactly happened, or why. Hence, wishy-washy policy documents like this full of media-aligned statements about ‘protecting the public’
Does the Duchy of Sealand fancy organising some shows…?
Because two ex military jets crashed killing 12 people in three weeks and the CAA do have the responsibility for safety of people on the ground and in the air have realised their procedures are not as robust as they deemed it necessary to be. What is your problem with that? ! spoke to an ex Jag driver mate who was involved with the jag display team and knew both pilots involve professionally and personally in the accidents. His views on the currency requirements of the CAA for fast jet displays? Not strong enough.
Static means you can’t even apply battery power to switch on the nav lights! 🙁
Graham
And seeing Graham has all the ITAR paperwork for a UK Phantom acquisition, he knows.
BCWM at Bentwaters have a Phantom that is complete, on an airfield location and the facilities to move it. 🙂
Depending on the Trustees of course.
Mystere at Andrewsfield…
Only 50+ years old.
Static means exactly that .. STATIC..
They have already stated that ITAR provisions are standard for a UK phantom sale. Static only.
Well, Well, Well.
XV582 ‘Black Mike’ Purchase – Press Release – 001/16 For those of you that have been following the progress of The British F4 Phantom Aviation Groups’ campaign to save XV582 ‘Black Mike’ from its uncertain future. You will be aware the road has not been as smooth as most would have liked. However I would like to announce that our campaign was a success. With the kind and generous help from Mr Gary Spoors and his company GJD Services. We have been able to secure ‘Black Mike’, enabling us to focus on phase two of the campaign, ‘The Move’. Mr Spoors was kind enough to purchase the aircraft on behalf of the group as well as paying for the transportation of ‘582 to Bruntingthorpe as initially planned. There is an agreement in place that will allow BF4PAG to reimburse Mr Spoors for his generosity over a period of time. This will allow us to ensure the safety of the aircraft and give a greater time period in order to raise the required funds. This is by no means the end and many more months of hard work await us, but at least we are now one more step closer. I would like to take this opportunity to make you all aware that we have a number of structured fund raising projects that will be rolled out in due course. Finally I would like to express my thanks on behalf of The British F4 Phantom Aviation Group, to Gary Spoors and GJD Services for the generosity and assistance.
Sam Thompson General Secretary The British F4 Phantom Aviation
New as possible, no camouflage, on an airfield? I know! Contact COSFORD!
I’d suggest there is probably a significant difference between live and airworthy.
Moggy
You are not wrong.. CAA would never authorise a on flight for an airframe that had been outside for 30 years with no proper anti det maintenance schedule or progressive maintenance carried out as service manuals would specify. If it is anything like the CNAM Vulcan, don’t look very closely. Corrosion is rampant on that frame.