Sorry to drag an old thread up but I know exactly what the frame was brought for. The frame was brought for military crew cockpit extraction training. Not burning or anything like that. Some parts of that frame have been kindly donated by David O’Neil to the BCWM to restore XX741. The main U/C door jacks were on that frame, most sets having been removed prior to disposal.
Blimey there are 70,000 of us!!!
Honouring everyone that made it happen!
“The Spirit of Great Britain – Those who made it happen” – 1999-2015A wall of honour recognising everyone who made it possible
It will be a massive task, but the Trust is committed to recording and honouring every single person who has donated £1 or more between 1999 and the end of 2015.
Time after time, it has been donations from people from all over the world that has allowed everyone’s dream to become a reality – the most complex aviation restoration project in the world followed by eight spectacular flying seasons – and everyone should be rightly proud of that achievement.
Between now and Christmas, the Trust will be consolidating our various lists and information sources to create a searchable online listing of everyone who has contributed.
Once it is announced and populated, we will give time for it to be checked and corrected if necessary before a final ‘travelling wall’ will be produced for Hangar 3 and placed on display in time for summer. Once the aircraft moves to the new facilities planned, the wall will move with her.
Best of all, if you are a donor you need to do nothing now.
We do the work and our newsletters will give you the full details for checking that your entry is correct before we produce anything final. We estimate over 70,000 names are eligible for this honour.
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Shop for Christmas at our next Family day – this Sunday 22nd November
BRING THE FAMILY TO SEE XH558 THIS SUNDAY hangar
Our Family Days prove highly popular and this Sunday sees another in Hangar 3. Picture: Taff Stone.This coming Sunday 22nd November, we open the hangar for another of our very popular Family Days, where admission is by arrival at reception.* Adults are £5 and Children under 16 are £2. This is an ideal way of getting close to XH558, seeing the hangar exhibits and in taking part in a range of family-orientated activities. It is also ideal for Christmas Gift ideas from the Vulcan shop.
Fun and interest for everyone. Give your children one great day out!
Doors open at 11am and close at 2pm. Last admission is at 1pm.
* Other hangar tours require booking in advance
That will be me as well then.
Terminator 2
Moggy
Mad Max 2.. Bruce Spence made that..
Condolences to the family.
Two people had the ability to see how low they were both visually and with the use of instruments .
The passenger had the option of saying no – there is no indication that he was forced to fly it .The captain made an error of judgement – however taking control of the aircraft even as a passenger has a degree of responsibility .
I would word it a bit stronger that an error, however no doubts some lawyer somewhere will get rich out of it. The voice recordings stated the pilot, Keith Hibbert, 51, asked John if he wanted to fly the plane. Geophysicist John, from Woldingham, Surrey, said: “Yes I do, if you guide me through it. I’m not a pilot.” Would any competent pilot hand control of an aircraft at low level to someone that has little clue what they are doing. I have flown in fast jets and Tucanos. the low level bit was defo hands off as far as I was concerned, even though I have flown solo before. GH for me at the controls was always at a height if I mucked up, the captain would have time to sort out the mess.
Sure the wife of the passenger would totally agree with some of the comments on here. I think not.
Why was a person with no flying training of any sort given control of a high performance aircraft at low level? Only one guilty person in that scenario. Argue as much as you like, the Yank had duty of care that he broke.
I know the Elvington Victor has, in the past, been the beneficiary of time-expired fuel from one of the big oil companies.
Needless to say such fuel isn’t certified for flight.
Moggy
Nor is the Brunty stuff. Helped refuel one of the Bucc’s before the May CWJs.. No chance of pressure refuelling, pure gravity. The BCWM Jaguar will be the same, when the time comes. However it is likely that we will have to pay for good stuff.. 🙁
The interesting figure is the 26 employees listed as on the VTTS books. 26 wage bills, plus the other costs that would have had to have been paid. That would take a fair chunk out of any budget, not just the CEOs cut. Costs that would likely be have to be seen on any similar project for a return to flight of a complex ex military bird.
Does anyone know if there has been, or, will be, a set of published accounts for XH558 showing what has been spent and what is now left in the kitty ?
I do believe it is a charity. If you have the registration number, the accounts will be on line with the charities commission. Oh everything is accounted as it has to be for the charity status.
I imagine the configuration of the wing and the tailplane position have a great influence on whether it will take off or not !
Lift is a gift, but thrust is a must. Most Brunty runs I have seen the frames are configured for take off. The whole point of that is that they are able to be photographed as if they will take off. Of course weight is also to be considered. Most Brunty frames have the minimum fuel to do the runs required. I certainly know the Buccs only carry a certain amount of fuel and not in all the tanks either.
Not entirely true. The poor chap in the RH seat keeps unfairly taking the flak for this, when there were other factors. I won’t go into them, but suffice to say don’t believe all a certain captain recently relieved of his aircraft taxying duties at Brunty says.
Both were at fault then? An aircraft flew when it was not in a legal state to do so. That is the bottom line of the matter. Lucky Tina wasn’t Tanker Trash at the end of it, more by luck that judgement.
Sometime ago (In the 80’s) I was told that the Vulcan was the better close-up display aircraft as it had better low speed handling but the Victor was better for the fast passes (Supersonic in a dive).
Supersonic flight is barred in UK airspace bar RAF QRA intercepts. Certainly is prohibited for any civvy frames that are capable. You used to get the Yanks coming back to Lakenheath who would muck up and send a shock wave cone across Norfolk.
VICTOR to the skies
(Image by James Matthews)
Tina or Lindy, I’m not fussed….. The Victors were the true hero’s…. Could fly faster, further, carry more bombs than a Vulcan. It took a dozen Victors to get one Vulcan to the Falklands, but the Vulcan got all the credit. They look as good – Straight out of a Sci fi movie yet they are now consigned to the backwaters of Aviation History while the Vulcan basks in the cold war glory.
I know it will never happen but we can but dream.
Cost less than 23 million to get that one in the air.. Just use a throttleman who hadn’t got a clue what he was doing. I was talking to a RR rep very recently about other things. He mentioned the Victor’s last flight, caused quite a bit of a stir with RR, more so than it did with the CAA.
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That’s easy to answer
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