The railgun has the advantage of higher rates of fire owing to its unique mechanism.
Compared to a chemical gun of similar caliber and delivered energy? Definitely not. The current railgun designs fire at 6-10 rounds per minute, because the sucker heats up like crazy, and the Navy is demanding 12 rpm. Oh, and of course you still have to mount a fresh track every dozen or so rounds right now.
20+ km/s ? Usable current designs of useful caliber fire at 2.3-2.5 km/s, which is 40-50% higher than current chemical high-pressure guns (albeit with projectiles that weigh only one-third of what a chemical gun would fire, meaning they actually perform at best in the same energy rating). The current target is to bring that up to 5.8 km/s – in the next 10 to 15 years.
If that’s half scale, FASGW is gonna be a damn fat missile. In comparison to Sea Skua at least.
In which case it seems rather daft for a German yard to bid for the contract
TKMS currently has some problems, they’re basically grasping for any straw. The Blohm+Voss shipyard as part of the company will likely have to be sold next year unless orders (even just for other yards of the company) come in, quickly. Germany is considering ordering a couple corvettes early to save the shipyard.
I do agree that large LST’s are now a bygone age, sort of like Battleships really. Better to throw everything in a large Sealift ship and have landing craft take them the final distance.
Depends on the force you’re trying to project into a specific theater. If it’s about mopping up coup attempts on pacific islands, 200 men with a couple vehicles, these LSTs are pretty much the only size needed.
There are a number of proposals for the BATRAL replacement:
Rolls-Royce proposal (UT-527):
http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=102955

– 1800 tons displacement
– dimensions 92.4 x 18 meters
– high automatisation, 12 men crew
– range 20.000 nm @ 16 knots (!), max speed 20 knots
– heavy helicopter platform, no hangar
– capacity for up to 320 troops, or 120 troops with 20 vehicles including some armoured
– multi-purpose with towing and firefighting capability
Proposal is for 6 ships for the Marine Nationale, to replace the BATRALs and the southern patrol cutter Albatros, possibly also a candidate for P400 replacement. Proposed introduction 2013-2018.
CNIM proposal for BATRAL replacement (MPV):
http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=108703
(well, somewhere in there)

– dimensions: 90 meters long, catamaran
– range 12.000 nm @ 12 knots, cruise speed 20 knots, max speed 25 knots
– crew: 25 men
– platform and hangar for medium helicopter and/or UAV
– capacity: up to 300 troops or those 120 men with 20 vehicles (160 lane meters / 500 m² 5-m-roof flex deck)
– beachable
The primary concerns for “Projet BIS” from the MN seems to be :
– massive range for worldwide autonomous use
– standardized troop capacity identical to BATRAL
– helicopter capability
The rest seems to be … negotiable.
K130 is sorta the wrong thing to call. K130 is merely the German variant of Meko A100. The two Meko A100 OPV variants Sentinel and Guardian would be more likely the right thing.
Besides, a 20-unit K130 class would cost at least 6-7 billion by itself nowadays – and K130 isn’t multi-role. It’s a single-role ASuW/patrol class. 20 units of Sentinel or Guardian would run more along the lines of 1-3 billion.
As for BATRALs… a 40-year-old design that has been out of production for 25 years, and that France will decommission all units of itself until 2014? France is working on a replacement of the BATRALs itself, which would be more appropriate.
Every JMSDF destroyer name I’ve looked up was used by the IJN, mostly for destroyers.
Nah, not at all. That’s only the more prominent classes, mostly all DDGs.
current DDG names previously used:
Tachikaze, Asakaze, Sawakaze, Shimakaze, Hatakaze (destroyers)
Myoko, Chokai, Ashigara (cruisers)
Kirishima, Atago, Kongo (battlecruisers)
current DD names previously used:
Hatsuyuki, Shirayuki, Asagiri, Yugiri, Amagiri, Murasame, Harusame,
Yudachi, Inazuma, Samidare, Akebono, Ariake, Ikazuchi (destroyers)
current DE names previously used:
Abukuma, Jintsu, Sendai, Chikuma, Tone (cruisers)
current DE names NOT previously used:
Ishikari, Yubetsu, Yubari, Ohyodo
current DD names NOT previously used:
Mineyuki, Sawayuki, Hamayuki, Isoyuki, Haruyuki, Hamayuki, Matsuyuki, Setoyuki, Asayuki, Shimayuki, Yamagiri, Hamagiri, Setogiri, Sawagiri, Umigiri, Kirisame
Hi,
An Angolan / Nigerian navy version of the MEKO A-200 from 2004:
Imho “AN, FAA, NN” on the picstands for “Angola, Forcas Armadas de Angolanas, nomen nescio“. Read: unnamed variant for Angola. Not Nigeria.
There’s also the national industry factor. TKMS can’t really produce a LHD/CVL mix out of nothing, but a pure LHD or a LHD/AOR mix isn’t that much of a problem. And buying a foreign design is pretty much outright out of the question.
They were never really full combat units, training only. And swept under the rug.
Germany named its only “people” class 20 years after their death after three people who died during WW2 (Lütjens, Mölders, Rommel).
Due to the … controversy of the name choice, every single German ship since then is named geographically. States, cities, towns for ships and larger boats, rivers and mountain ranges for supply ships, animals for smaller boats. And even that still incites people, considering Germans tend to think “regional”. Along the lines of “every federal state has to have one or two ships”. Iirc there’s only state without a ship ever named after it or a feature in it (Saarland).
Not really all that serious: Go and buy the Charles de Gaulle from France, who would then go and buy two PA2 sequentially to “finance” DCN.
It would be an enticing option… especially if the nuclear submarine cooperation with France ever gets anywhere. Transfer CdG at the end of a fuel cycle (not 2014… around 2021-23?), and replace the French submarine reactors with a number of those (to be) designed for Brazilian nuke subs or a derived reactor design.
CdG with some 25 refurbished zero-set Rafales and in addition to however many Rafales Brazil would buy now would probably make a good match for Brazil’s future carrier ambitions.
The ASW/GP version of MEKO A200 would already be enabled to carry ESSM, most likely with SEAPAR, typical fit would be at least two 8-cell VLS with 32 ESSM and 8 VL ASROC in that role.
Distribution of Mk41 on A200 is one 8-cell launcher in front of the superstructure, and a 32-cell block between the superstructures (8-cell block there on ASW variant, no VLS there on Valour).
The Valour class switches out the forward 8-cell Mk41 for four 8-cell Umkhonto VLS blocks in the same space, with only some of the 32 cells typically containing a launch container (usually 8 or 16).
Options stated for Meko A200 AAW were APAR/SMART-L (full suite, not a derival) or SPY-1F (not 1K).
I’m pretty sure that’s not max range.
In most literature i’ve seen it’s given as the max effective range of the RMK30.
Note that that is already more than cannons of comparable weight, barrel length and recoil, such as the Giat AM-30781 in the chin turret on the Tiger (which fires faster though…).
Btw, “Hydra” is apparently also an option for future Type 214 SSKs. So there’s a possibility that a (future?) 214 customer could buy Muraena.
Muraena is pretty much binned for the moment. IDAS will be capable of intercepting small boats and firing at shore targets in support of SF personnel, hence overlapping with Muraena’s intended role.
The Batch 2 Type 212A that are currently being built will have a heavily redesigned sail which will contain a mission-oriented payload area called “Hydra”. The Hydra payloads will be modular and exchangable.
Muraena and the Aladdin launcher were payloads proposed and developed for Hydra, other payloads that will definitely be realized are a 4-man diver chamber and the Callisto SATCOM system; a further possible payload is additional console space for mission-oriented analysis systems such as SUBLAB or network-centric communications systems.