Find here sensors and weapons, according to this Dutch anti-weapon site
http://www.antenna.nl/amokmar/wapens%20op%20Sigma%20klasse.html
it will look like this:
From the Sigma brochure:
Find more here:
http://www.antenna.nl/amokmar/folderSigmaklasse.html
Some rare GK pics
Taken during RNLN Naval day 2005
Courtesy: Michel Bons http://de-kmarine.tripod.com/
Tripod seems overloaded sometimes, here is the page:
http://de-kmarine.tripod.com/nvd05.html
Users of Goalkeeper:
Qatar (4x Barzan class)
UK (4x Albion class, 3x Invincible, 3x Illustrious, 4x Type22 Batch 3)
UAE (2x S-frigate, 2x Muray Jip class)
South Korea (3+3x KDX-I, 6x KDX-II, 1+1x LPX, 1x KDX-III)
Chile (2x L-frigate)
The Netherlands (2x Johan de Witt, 2x Rotterdam, 1x Amsterdam, 1x Zuiderkruis, 6x M-frigate, 5x LCF (Evertsen has 2) plus x? for overhaul roulation
Some are re-used from M-frigates to Chile and S-frigates to Greece
I’ll count at least 56 systems.
Any corrections ?
Not too bad !
to Stonewall e.a.
I think indeed that there is a “letter of intend” or something like that, that Portugal will buy two M’s.
It’s based on the following observations.
Mindef NL has said in 2005 that he was willing to think about 4 new ships if he was able to get a good price for the sell of 2 additional M’s.
The situation before that moment was that the RNLN has to reduce and to sell 4 M’s and wouldn’t get back anything.
So parlement suggested (also pushed by industry) to re-calculate the cost of operation of 2 M’s versus 4 new ships with low manning. In this way the navy would loose only 2 ships instead of 4.
It’s an old Dutch tradition to ask the Mindef for something small and come up with something big. Like the LCF …. it’s still a frigate (of above 6000 ton)!
At 18 May 2006 Deputy Mindef has answered parlement abouth his plans, so that means that he knows how much he will get for the sell of 2 M’s to Belgium and the 2 additional M’s to a non-disclosed country that would be preferable an European NATO partner.
Letter to Parlement (in Dutch)
Now would this be coincidence ?
At 26-04-2006, the deputy Mindef signed a MOU with Portugal.
26-4-2006: Materiel cooperation between the Netherlands and Portugal
The Netherlands and Portugal have signed a Memorandum of Understanding today for cooperation in the area of materiel. State Secretary Van der Knaap signed on behalf of the Netherlands, while Dr. Manuel Lobo Antunes represented the Portuguese Ministry of Defence.
In the letter to Parlement, one can read: in the middle of the year, this sell will be announced.
Now in the same letter, 3 projects are announced:
– a joint logistic support ship
Replacement of the “Hr. Ms. Zuiderkruis”, but with expeditionary, Seabasing capabilities and disaster relief. With roll on/ roll of, elevator, helo landing spots. Manning of 175 with additional space for 300.
This looks like a size between the Rotterdam and the new Johan de Witt with RAS and Crane facillities and for that a somewhat smaller superstructure.
– 4 “patrouilleschepen”
Not translated by intention ! As far as I remember (I left the RNLN in 1978) there is no clear perception of what a “patrouille schip” means.
After WW II we have had “roofdier” class fregates, “jagers”, “Leander” frigates and the well known Tromp, S, L and M frigates.
Now the Deputy Mindef writes:
This Patrolship must be able to be used independently, everywhere in the world, be fast, for a long-term, under all circumstances and in short term applicable for a variety of tasks.
It has capability for NH90 and launchers for two fast crafts.
Manning 50 persons plus accomodation for additional 40 persons (f.i. boarding teams). Less administrators and technicians on board, but remote support and maintenance by 20 persons ashore.
The set of sensors, weapon systems and commando facilities (sewaco) of patrol ship must be sufficient for local awareness – including small objects in coast surroundings -, local task-specific operations, and for commando of operations other than war.
Contract mid 2007, delivery begin 2010.
This schedule is in line with the earnings of the sell of the 2 + 2 M’s.
😉 by 7SEAS:
To me this means, a small frigate, with mission modules, advanced littoral sensors plus accurate gun capabilities (plural!) to support boardings and shot over the bow with a reasonable arm length (76mm with DART?)
– Upgrade Walrusklasse
First he underlines the importance of the sub capability.
Called by the Deputy: “veiligheidsaanpassingen sonar Walrus”, something like security improvement.
This is a part of a larger SLEP progam (or is it Boat Life Extension Program instead of Ship ?)
Het talks about a Medium Range Sonar, Mine Avoidance Sonar and replacement of frequency analysis equipment.
😉 by 7SEAS
Seem to me a step-by-step approach of sensor replacement and CIC upgrade.
All-in-all … not too bad.
When the Mindef came in charge, he seems to be not pro-navy ( 😉 understatement).
But his popularity is going up.
He has proven to be a real transformational guy w.r.t. all forces.
I think he is ahead of many writers on these boards, that still are comparing ships, based on massive missile load-outs against massive cold war attacks.
And the RNLN ? They will be inventive enough, to give an advanced implementation of the plans of Mindef. As they did in all years before.
Wait and see.
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