Well GeForce I hope you do well in your exam.

That was quite a lecture. Lots of excuses offered up about unrelated issues such as defence, however, you are a bit shy about the Havana thing. As you have explained the EU has many constaints on what it can or cannot do, but on an issue as basic as one related to human rights, this action is hard to defend.

Firstly, don’t you think kissing a dictators ass is a little unbecoming for the EU? :confused: What about the basic values the EU says it stands for? Like(gasp) human rights. It looks to me that the EU is paying lip service to it’s own values when it is afraid to even listen to the other side’s story. I would imagine certain business issues are at stake in this case.

As to the decision not to show the film “Submission” at the Rotterdam show(as originally planed) because it would imflame Muslims, some of them were already inflamed enough to murder and others have made threats against legislators and others folks they don’t like. Is rolling over in the face of threats from terrorists and thugs wise? I imagine many Dutch resent that the values of a few elitists and political correctness, trumps standing up to such people.

Sauron

Well Flood I wasn’t thinking of you in particular. However, if I remember correctly, you were one of those who were against the invasion, therefore, you were prepared to live with the consequences of letting Saddam continue to rule and democratic elections were certainly not going to take place with Saddam in power.

Given the strong opposition to the invasion expressed by some members and the level of rancor directed at certain countries and leaders, etc, I can only conclude they were content enough with Saddam to be opposed to the elections as well. Perhaps it’s that the U.S. was the major force behind the invasion and they were willing to put their raw anti-Americanism before the long term interests of the Iraqs. It’s possible that some might have a twinge of regret, now that the elections appear to have had some success.

The elections are just the beginning of the democratic processes at work in Iraq and even if Iraq eventually becomes democratic, more than enough bad things will happen in the meantime to allow those who opposed the invasion to say look how bad in was.

Sauron

A great day for Iraq and all those in Iraq who had the courage to vote inspite of all the danger.

There was a good turnout in Canada among those eligbile to vote here and based on what I have seen, in other countries involved in ex-pat voting as well.

It’s interesting to speculate on the effect this will have in the M-E (and Paris and Berlin). For example, you have to wonder what Syrians are thinking about their lack of choice when they see Iraqis voting in Damascus while they are governed by a hereditary thug.

No doubt there will be tough times ahead but today the winners are:

the Iraqi people and security forces
their supporters around the world
Democracy
the coalition and it’s leaders

The losers:

the terrorists
the left wing wherever it lurks
old Europe
the press
certain members of this forum

I am sure others can add to my lists.

Regards

Sauron

I believe the Canadian forces suffered about 350 dead plus many more wounded on D-Day. I can only imagine what our current crop of lefty CBC reporters would make of that. Within hours the press would be sending teams of reporters to track down the families of the dead and conducting front door interviews with the mothers of the dead and asking them how they feel about the war.

Sauron

It looks like comments will now be subject to strict screening by Flood to see if they conform to his own personal criteria of what constitutes off topic rambling.

As of now topics involving Mr M. Moore will not contain any unwarrented reference to any part to Mr Moores body including any reference to his fat ass. 😮

Be warned that this strict interpretation of the new rule may include any comment about the size of Moores “weapon” such as “Look at the size of his weapon.” the type of ammunition used in his weapon, comments about his face, etc, etc.

Regards

Sauron

I do not believe U.S.flight crew are allowed to carry wepons on flights nor are they avalible as standard cockpit equipment.

Sky-marchalls would be carring. 🙂 Would anyone believe otherwise?

Anyone else trying to board carrying a gun regardless whether or not he is licenced or whether or not they declaired it beforehand needs serious help.

Mr Moore is a Hollywood limo-lib a hypocrite and wouldn’t recognize the truth if it bit him on his excessively large ass.

Sauron

J.Boyle

You asked a fair question about who would have supported Israel but you notice no one answered. Everyone here knows full well that you are correct about another holocaust.

The Islamic world hates Israel because everyone is brainwashed from birth to hate Jews. You only have to hear and read what the leaders, press and elites of the Islamic world say and write to understand that. The recent ravings about how the Indian ocean Tsunami was caused be the Jews and the Americans is a prefect example.

Its more difficult to understand the anti-Israel attitudes which are frequently displayed here by some Europeans and North Americans. Never-the-less, it’s remarkable how quickly the hate and justification for it pops to the surface and washes away rational thought and phony morality.

Regards

Sauron

I think you had better stay away if you are going to bring this crap up.

Moderator please do us a favour and delete this post.

Sauron