What’s your point Flood?

Sauron

“The West will not contain Communism. It will transcend Communism. It will dismiss it as a bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages are even now being written.”

R. Reagan

1981

Steve

Carefull now. You will get the lefties on the forum all riled up. Seriously, thanks for the posting.

Geforce

I doubt if Steve is concerned with accuate chronology, exact context or precise definitions. Nazi Germany, the USSR and Saddam’s Iraq were all murderous regimes regardless of what terms or definitions you use to discribe them. It matters little to the millions of Jews murdered by Hitler, whether or not Germany was fascist or national-socialist (or that fascism was in power in Italy years before Hitler). Seems to me that it was clearly both because fascizm is as you know, strongly nationalistic.

As for communism, nothing alters the plain fact that the so called intellectual left who reside comfortably in western democracies have consistantly supported communism in all its various forms. Lenin’s “usefull idiots”.

Lester Thurow wasn’t the only economist to praise the USSR’s economic achievements. Paul Samuelson, Nobel Laureate, wrote in 1985 (inspite of all contrary evidence) that “What counts is results, and there can be no doubt the the Soviet planning system has been a powerfull engine for economic growth”.

Prof Seweryn Bialer of Columbia U. wrote in 1983: “The Soviet Union is not now nor will it be during the next decade in the throes of systemic crisis, for it boasts enormous unused resources of political and social stability to endure the deepest difficulties”.

Sauron

Souris

Lappin’s story sound like a put up job but assuming there is some small shred of truth to it, it reads more like the product of a mind deluded by and motivated by hate for the U.S. than anything. It reads like a cheap novel.

As far as your judgement of the U.S. is concerned, it seems to me to be based on some perverse moral standard that equates the right to take reasonable steps to protect ones boarders with crimes against humanity. One can only imagine what your view might be if you had something real to moralize about.

Regards

Sauron

Well put Distiller.

It’s typical of some Euros on this forum that they can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that the strong position taken by Reagan against the USSR helped push that rotten structure over the edge.

Its not in their nature to give credit to an American President who consistantly displayed one of the prime qualities necessary to be a strong leader — backbone. It takes characture to be a stong leader and strong leaders have been rare in Europe post WWII except in the UK. We have had a few weak-knees in Canada during the same period. Trudeau for example (he was good at making pirouettes behind your back, but not to your face).

The Presidents death gives those who get off on taking issue with everything American an opportunity to vent.

Sauron

Gee another thread where Euros get to vent their spleens about how degenerate the U.S. is and how superior they are.

Lectures from Euros about values are about as credible as lectures about American social excesses from a fat 350 lb slob such as Moore.

Sauron