Crobato

My my! Such juvenile language! However, it doesn’t advance your claim that the CIA had anything to do with the rise of the Ba ath party in Iraq. I thought my other comments about Iraq were quite reasonable.

As to the broader issue of US actions to thwart communist movements during the cold war… why would they have done otherwise? It was a means to an end. A quite satisfactory one given the nature of communism. Most of those issues have been sorted out as democratic government have evolved. Not such a bad result IMHO given the track record of communism.

I guess it’s easier to blame the US than to accept the truth about why those dictatorships existed in the first place.

Regards

Sauron

Keltic

I am just as entitled to state my opinion about the US as you are I am I not?

Crobato

You obviously take some satisfaction over the 9/11 attack on the US.

Where did you get the idea that the CIA was behind the rise of the Ba ath party in Iraq?

As far as the US supporting Iraq against Iran, why would it not given the relationship between the US and Iran at the time? I doubt if the US was the only western country to side with Iraq.

As to the direct sale of military equipment to Iraq, the Russians and the French appear to have been the major suppliers both before and after the Iran/Iraq war.

Sauron

Keltic

What trade sanctions are you talking about? Against who? Dosn’t the EU have trade issues of it’s own?

‘Ultra neo conservatives’ Where did you get that line from? What does it mean? Perhaps you don’t like G.W. Bush because he goes to church?

Richard Perle is not part of, nor has he been part of, the current Bush administration.

Don’t you have enough domestic politics to worry about without concerning yourself about US politics and leaders? I don’t hear Americans telling you how to run your business.

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Sauron

Arthur

Lets hope the world keeps suffering. 😀

But hey!…….. if it gets too, bad we can bring back the USSR style central planners to run the world. That way we can all be deprived equally as we wait in the bread-line for our daily slice.

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Sauron

We can always count on some to quickly pounce on the Jewish question can’t we? Lets get rid of them and then everything in the M-E will fine. The only problem then will be the Arabs will have to find a new answer to the question ‘who did that to us!.

Geforce

Speaking of tiny counties, if Belgium ever gets tired of being handmaid to France and Germany you would be welcome to relocate over in North America. There is room enough in Lake Ontario to fit all of Belgium. Think of the amount of lake-front there would be and there would be enough room around the outside for the Belgium navy.

🙂

Regards

Sauron

Geforce

I simply ment that a significant number of the Canadians who fought and died in Europe were French-Canadian and that because you are a history buff, you would know where many of them are buried.

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Sauron

Good points TTP and Jonesy

Hey Drunkenmonkey…. if you are a fellow Canuck put it on your bio so we can all see it when you post.

You are correct that the war wasn’t about the US stealing Iraq’s oil. The US is concerned about supply, not ownership. I notice that the UN continues skimming the top of each barrel of Iraqi oil being sold and France wants it to continue the sanctions.

I was also surprised by the degree of looting in Iraq. I can understand them targeting Saddam’s palaces and the large government centres but I thought they would have shown more respect for one another than to loot hospitals, museums and the like. I can only assume that is a result of living in a police state for 30 years and if that is the case then they were past due for liberation , oil or no.

What strikes me about the manner in which the international press covered the looting was the degree to which they blamed the US/UK military but never once asked the Iraqis who were doing the looting, why they were also targeting hospitals and one another.

On minute we were being told by the press that all the hospitals in Baghdad were overflowing with civilian wounded and a short time latter we were being told that those same hospitals had all been looted by the civilian population. Never once did I see or hear a reporter explain or ask anyone… what happened to the wounded? Did they get dumped on the floors? Were they killed? Did they die before or after their medications and beds were taken? Nor did I ever hear anyone explain where the hospitals are located in Baghdad and how US forces were supposed to prevent looting in areas they hadn’t secured in a city of 5 million.

Lets face up to the facts….Iraqis for whatever reasons, went into the hospitals, sole the medications and beds needed by their own injured, stole from one another and looted the museums, not the US/UK military.

Regards

Sauron

TTP

Enjoyed your comments. No need to apologize. We Canadians sometimes have to whine a little to get noticed.:)

Actually the vast majority of Quebecers are good folks but they like to play the independance card once in awhile just so the rest of the country notices. If they did separate from Canada they would immediately rejoin so they could play it again. They also like to spend part of the winter in the US, Florida in particular.

I was born in Quebec and lived there quite some time and believe me French-Canadians don’t give France a second thought during 99.99% of their lives.

I, like you, tend to vote conservative for exactly the reason you mentioned. The less government the better but unfortunately we currently have a liberal government who’s main talent is patronage and acting superior. I regard a Canadian who dislikes the US the same way I regard an American who voted for Gore and are still sore about the outcome.

Regards

Sauron