How many has China lost over the US? Oh yeah I forgot, they don’t even have any aircraft that can make it here :diablo:
(SOC looks like you’ve taken a 2nd job as a secretary with all the typing you’ve been doing.)
China never had to make a U-2 look a like. Since they already proved the concept to be flawed. What’s the point of wasting the lives of pilots?
Oh did we forget that those were Taiwanese lives and hence not on the forethought of the pentagon?
Btw these planes never had to fly from the continental US but rather from Korea and Taiwan.
Going into the strait would necessitate locating the following targets: aircraft, SAM sites, missile sites, and naval units. We can track aircraft with AWACS. SAM sites can be located using RC-135 or U-2 ELINT collectors. Missile sites can be located using JSTARS or U-2 imagery. Naval units can be tracked using other naval systems, or by using U-2 imagery or ELINT collection at longer range. Satellties don’t have to come into play for a limited-scale localized conflict like this.
U-2 hasn’t done any over fly of China in quite a while…
Having lost 4 to china in the early 60s isn’t a great track record to boot.
Somehow I don’t see the RC-135 or Jstar fairing any better than the U-2.
Sending in surveillance assets after SEAD and gaining air superiority compared to sending in surveillance assets for target acquisition is quite different.
Another report from Taipei Times about China’s J-10 ?!
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2007/01/23/2003345957
Typical blabber about the low quality of PLAAF pilots but really is due to an increasing infuriority complex.
note just recently an ROC mirage 2000 pilot provinding escort to president Chen’s airforce one swayed too close to the plane that could have resulted in a mid air crash. If ROC ace pilots can not even manage to provide a safe escort for their own president then it speaks volumes on their quality rather than some nationalistic chest thumping.
The accuracy of that anti-sattelite missile was quite amazing, wasn’t it? It is usually said that Chinese ballistic missiles are quite inaccurate even against fixed targets, yet this missile hit a small target moving at an extermely fast speed. How do you think the missile was able to pull that off?
There was a change in the tragetory of the target to cope with the KKV. In a sense the Chinese cheated but still it is a great feat to have managed to have a direct hit though.
This certainly isn’t a proven weapon system yet. So i’d guess it has more strategic and policital value in mind.
if they are talking about the 3rd division regiment, then there are far more than 12 J-10s facing them.
It was a rehashed report from Taipei Times. What do you expect?
Shoddy journalism is a commonality in all their pieces.
The only useful information you can deduce is that 3rd division is transforming to J-10 but nothing more…
Chill off Crobato…
From the comments of Star49 it is obvious he has never worked in a research lab nor have ever submitted a research paper. I’d even wonder if he ever got a decent education.
I’m plenty surprised that any serious researcher actually use google to find an article. That alone says it all!
Leave the google expert where he belong and stop going off topic…
Hey, it would be great if Israel gave up their nukes too.
But since they already have nukes, it would be very difficult to force Israel to do this. Prevention is better than cure.
What a whole load of cr*p that is… Try economic sanctions that the west have so eagerly applied to muslim states.
The fact of the matters is the west feel more confortable turning a blind eye when Isreal has nukes. Why do the chest thumping when you can have the Isreali do it for you?
That, if anything was a far more important development as it is a far more ‘useable’ ‘weapon’. It will take a great deal of political will to authorise the use of weapons that would damage or destroy sats from other nations and would almost certainly result in retalitory strikes against your own sats, it would kinda be like MAD in space, with the added problem of all that space debris zipping around to smash into replacement sats you put up.
Although it is still a very powerful weapon, both political and real, that would weigh heavily on the cost/benefit and success rate projections of the pentagon for getting involved in any fight over Taiwan.
Difference is China isn’t as reliant on space based technology.
A nuke strike in space certainly won’t affect the PLA as it will the netcentric US Army. Retalitory strikes or not the threat now becomes very real. Certainly this may be the objective Beijing wish to achieve.
Chinese nuclear MAD wasn’t effective but ASAT will currently give cause for pentagon to worry about for some time. What’s funny is that in a matter of a few months China transfromed from “they have no ASAT” to “We have no spy sat”
It is apparent that China regard ASAT warfare as being of very significant importance- who remembers last years reports of a high powered laser being used to ‘dazzle’ a US intelligence satellite?:eek:
Why not? The U.S. has had this capability for years. It is really nothing new. But current view of criticizing The Chinese after one launch is just hypocritical. The US government has been perusing a policy of militarizing space for a long time. They have yet to be credible partners to anyone wanting to keep space peaceful. The Chinese tests only prove there may be a future response to such attitude.
I’d be surprised if China didn’t actually challenge the US. US have already inked out on paper that she has no intensions to sacrifice her interests in space for the interests of any other nation. The only choice China faces is to accept that the benevolent space protector US will look out for Chinese interests or take necessary steps to ensure self protection.
I stand corrected, 2 PL-8’s, 2 PL-11’s and 2 PL-12’s.;)
WHat is the difference between PL-12 and SD-10?
Aside from one being export product.
I always thought that PL-12 has a bigger diameter but share the same seeker head with SD-10…
A closed ended lease of F-22’s would be of course very appealing to the USAF. Yet, would Australia even consider such arrangement? As it would be basically trading in F-22’s for F-35’s!:confused:
Also, you do bring up an excellent point of Australia being invaded proper! Extremely unlikely…………………sounds like the F-35 is ideally suited for Australia after all?
Why would Australia want a new plane be gap filler? Isn’t it rather counter productive as when the F-22 are combat ready they must then switch to a different airframe with different logistics standards? Buying more F-18s until the planned F35 arrives would make much more sense.
There is some doubt as to whether these are YJ-63 AShM’s. I am more inclined to believe that they are land attack cruise missiles of a yet unidentified type (It appears that there seems ta have been some effort made to reduce the missiles RCS- note what appears to be line around the nose).
This variant is also reported to use Russian made DK-30 turbofans and a much higher degree of composites.
I don’t think they are LACM since they lack the air intake and the X configuration of the tail.
The LACM varient of the YJ-61 have been photographed already.
Yeah its fanstasy. ur hong kong is a small village in area. Saintspetersburg is right there where NewYork.
LOL maybe they should have shot MI3 with Tom flying in and between building in St. Petersburg instead of Shanghai?
Come to think of it hollywood is more realistic than you are! LOL
Hong kong is not big in size but wholly developed. Until St. Petersburg’s realestate price rises to roughly the same level of HK, Taipei, Tokyo, NY, Shanghai, it is in no way comparable.
Does this statement make anyone think of a certain European country in the 1930s? :rolleyes:
Japan.
ooops whong continent.
Then again I have no idea what country you are referring to…
China has recived western and japanese investement via Taiwan, in fact great part of the western investment in China was via Taiwan and Hong Kong, the Myth of Taiwan and south Korea directly investing in China is a half truth, the US and Japan have been investing through that way for many years throught out taiwanese companies to cite an example because the US have been working transfering technology to asian companies and throught them investing in China but they still recieve royalties from the Asian companies and the Chinese2007/01/10/al31/
Complete BS. Truely show how much you know…
Maybe you should check up on how VW, GM, lucent invested in China. It was all direct investment. There really isn’t any need to go to Taiwan to trasfer fund and be at the rejection of Taiwanese legislative yuan.
I’ve seen the developers in China from Taiwan and HK but never have I seen
many from the west simply because mainland economy are more open to ethnic chinese than western firms. Taiwanese firm may benefit from policies that are restricted to the average western based firm. Call it unfair competition or what not but this is the trend.