Because that is not as simple as you thougt. Such a huge structure has to survive several operational hazards. Just to get an idea about that, your are in need of some real operational first-hand experiances.
Even such a hull shows design features, how a carrier has to be built to survive hits from different weapons, to survive fire-hazards a.s.o.
A smooth sea-keeping behavior to enable an operational flight deck most of the times a.s.o. Sometimes those demands are contradicting.
When built already, that concept has be sound, with no real chance to correct design faults satisfactory.
Such a ship is a balanced design of a mix of stiff and elastic components. It is not just cutting steel for an ordinary ship. Even a destroyer is a much different class of design.
So before you waste billions, you have to be shure about the general details.
The Chinese are clever enough, to avoid Russian mistakes, who were forced to find it out the expensive way by trial and error.
When you have a sound and proven concept, you can look for refinements.
But without practical operational experiences before, that is very academic.
The French carrier CDG suffered several service entry delays, despite it was not the first French carrier. Before India started their own design, it bought British and Russian carriers. There is a deeper sense in such an approach.
your are in need of some real operational first-hand experiances? How? China does not operate a CV yet…
All these talks about designs are fine and dandy but unless China actually build a CV they won’t have any first hand experience. Most of the time operational requirement and design stand point are contraditory so no matter how much thought you put into the design in operations there are changeds so that’s why the US NAVY work out their carriers by navy personel after the ship is delivered by the SY. China has to start somewhere and find out what works for them. and the Varyag although not the perfect design is a perfect starting point to perfect future designs.
some of Dalian’s different products
300,000 dwt oil carrier
115,000 dwt shuttle tanker (podded engine?)
118,000 dwt shuttle tanker
150,000 dwt oil tanker
110,000 dwt product/crude tanker
98,000 dwt product tanker
68,000 dwt oil tanker
25,000 dwt replenishment vessel
12 000dwt Ro/Ro vessel
Bulk Carriers:
150,000 dwt bulk carrier
35,000 dwt bulk carrier
Container Carriers:
52,000 dwt open hatch bulk carrier
12,300 dwt container
The Yard also built, repaired, converted and delivered offshore engineering projects such as: Big Foot-III type of self jack-ups, modules for accommodation and production platform, Bingo-9000 rig, caisson, FPSO as well as container cranes.
I do know that Hudong have a podded engine design and given the tendencies for the shipyard to copy each other’d designs I’d guess Dalian have one also…
Chinese can design their own CV? Maybe they can ‘build’ CV but designing it is different story.
They have the Varyag already… and not only the schematics but a built copy, although not very complete as it is. Why not build a fresh hull i.e. a replica/modification that will serve you better?
What kind of sat do you have in mind?
only optical imaging? Film or digital real time?
I know china have officially non military optical imaging sat that have the resolution to be utilized in military applications.
Taiwan are getting spy sat of that kind too.
My hunch says this is a very good CG pic…
I have to agree with Ja
It sorta look unnatural to be a real pic.
Got this from CDF
New? LGB and laser pod for the Q-5
What’s the function of the laser in the nose of the plane do if there is a seperate targeting pod?
Considering how long this hull has been in a mothballed state, how long would it take the Chinese to get it back into a seaworthy state and then eventually be able to include it in its ever growing fleet?
I don’t think that’s the point…
Chinese could just as well have built a new hull it they wished. They certainly have the tech to do so… Dalian SY have built many larger and more complicated ships than the Varyag.
The questions remains why they want to work with a rusted and battered hull…
No one really knows what PLAN have in mind for the ship. I think it has been preposed that the ship might be turned into a floating training flight deck but heck it might also only end up like minsk…
Podded electric motors currently I think only have commercial applications where they are installed on small tugs and as large as the queen mary 2. They are still being investigated though by the USN for military applications.
Guess what aircraft and what missile….
J-11 with PL-12?
seems that PLAAF finally integrated chinese missile with the sukhoi…
With all do respect Ja,
The US Navy would send in at least 6 CVN Carrier Battle groups if China even try to take back Tawian, also we would attack from the Korea and over the Pole and from japan they would never stand a chance.
RER
6 CVN Carrier Battle groups? How long would planning such a deployment take? 1 week? 2 weeks? maybe even more? what about logistics and follow up work? In such time constrited conditions for the crisis there would be only one carrier maybe two that can make it to Taiwan in time…
Attack from korea and have a full frontal clash with the PLA? what about NK?
The reason for the Chinese to be involved in the korean war was to establish a buffer zone in korea. Full frontal with PLA will only prove to be desasterous. There are too many active reserves they can pull up and too much territory to fall back upon…you wouldn’t even notice when you find yourself drawn in for a beating. China actually have some pretty effective air defence and considering the huge number of point defence fighters they can pull up… It won’t turn out like a one sided bashing as in the gulf war. There won’t be any clear winners here!
Or are you sugggesting an amphib attack? That would face the same consiquence the PLA faces if PLA tries a full invasion of Taiwan. Time consuming to prepare, costly, high losses…
USSR attempted to invade China during the 70s due to confrontation between the two communist state. USSR clearly held a great advantage in the quality and the quantity but had to give up due to careful considerations of the same issues.
Taiwan still have massive coastal guns 200+mm… Just take a search on google you’d be able to find out a lot about them.
Yeah… I think it’s privately organized too… Too bad I couldn’t make it there…
found some CF-18 with cool orange and tiger stripe camo…!
F/A-18
It seems no birth control on these babies…
I thought these speculated subs are already disscussed and concluded that they are round storage container… possibly for natural gas or that volatile gaseous material.
…I don’t know why this argument lasted for so long. If the SR-71 was indeed pretty much invulnerable to SAMs then it would still be in service today…