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hallo84tough talk on japanese economy when in reality, Japan heavily invested much needed capitol into China during the 70’s and 80’s, just go ask your everyday person in Liaoning how much the investment has helped them, and please none of your nationalistic sunshine 🙂
Please Japan invested these capital because they wanted to make money off these investments, by taxing or putting pressure on these capital (eg. a full gov’t tax audit) would drive the owner of these capital to talk with their gov’t and end the stupidity. It’s all about politics and how you utilize the economy, it has nothing to do with nationalism.
hallo84A) Not “hopeless”….helpless. 😉
B) What I meant was that the PLAN has been flexing it’s muscle in and around the South China Sea when it’s up against navies from Vietnam, the Pilippines, etc., but that won’t work with JSMDF. China’s naval muscle isn’t big enough to intimidate Japan…yet.
C) China is smart enough to know that a “trade war” is also a no-win situation…since they do not hold all of the cards from an economic perspective (i.e. Japan could retaliate by withdrawing it’s investment in the mainland, and possibly shifting it over to Taiwan.)
PLAN have been trying out its planned blue water fleet, partly to intimidate its neighbours. Seriously I don’t see that JSMDF is that much stronger than PLAN at any point that the PLAN would have no chance against JSMDF.
Realistically this situation won’t get anymore uglier than this, since Japan have doubts as to if China is willing to act tough like it once had. The reason behind these action Japan took is to prevoke Beijing and see where the chinese draw the line.
There absolutely won’t be any “trade war.” Chinese economy strives on going forward. The Japanese have been talking about withdrawing it’s investment for ages. Please take a look at chinese foreign reserves and you’ll see that the Japanese loans are but a drop in the bucket. But if limited conflict breaks out then the chinese might consider a 100% or 200% levy on all Japanese imports just to put strain on the Japanese industries and covertly pressure Tokyo to come to some understanding where both parties could actually share the resources around the islands.
There are some things that Tokyo want in relation to China as well. So it’s not only up to the Japanese. eg. tokyo want Japan to be a permenant member of UN but the Chinese objected. In other word in order to gain Chinese support Tokyo must sacrifice some as well.
hallo84China is not used to being the one helpless in a situation like this…(see past Spratly Islands disputes)…but Japan does have the stronger navy at this time in history, so there’s not much the PLAN can do about it…at least not from an intimidation standpoint.
I don’t see what you mean by hopeless…
The question is that if Japan is willing to upset Beijing and jepordize it’s market interests in China over the islands.
You have to take into consideration that the only reason Japan is slopping out of its stagnation is because of new opportunities and business venture in China. If the situation gets ugly, well you’ll see corps like sony and panasonic take a huge toll not to mention the Jap auto industries in China as well.
hallo84well it’s a one sided argument you posted. Chinese claim over the island due to historic fact and both argument should be considered equally since there are no residents on the islands and so it’s on a first come first serve basis. Japan’s lease of the island is unfortunately without permission since the islands were never apart of Japan to start with. Both China and Japan never stressed that the island belonged to either before the discovery of oil deposit. The thing is Chinese gov’t does not want a lasting conflict with the Japanese but can’t seem to let go of the fact that lossing claim over the islands will not only give Japan the oil deposits there and extra rights to the surrounding waters.
So in agreement both China and the Japanese noted that all gov’t involvement of the islands should be on hold. Until recent surge of event that a Japanese private company want to hand over a privately owned light house to Jap gov’t resurected the debate.
hallo84and did all this come up before or after his remarks about japanese occupation?
Sadly this came before his remarks about japanese occupation, around the time of his first election. The Taiwanese always joked that they voted an Japanese for their first president and the irony was that he was voted into office twice!
lol.
well i never said LDH was the sole cause, but his remarks did seriouse hurt to his party, which helped, or at the very least sped up the downfal of the KMD.
as for the La Fayettes, well LDH got off scot free because he used the oldest trick in the book – get everyone involved, that way everyone has a vested interest in keeping the truth from coming out and covering up as much as possible. :rolleyes:
but thats more to do with ‘skill’ rather then his personal popularity.
Well he had his ass on the line at the time.
He seriously ditched KMD because he wanted the Green party to win and incidentally none of the green party including CSB had anything to do with the La Fayette. It would be disaterous for the Mr. Song to win cause the guy would fry LDH for sure… :diablo:
But because of LDHs’ actions CSB did not follow or his lack of intent to follow up on LDHs’ involvement. Call it dirty politics if you will.
And currently LDH have pulled his supporters from KMD and formed a new party that strongly sucks up to CSB hmmm…. i wonder why…???
I wouldent take the Japanese seriously since they always blow hot air whenever there is some threat but we never see any action. But I wouldent say the same for the chinese considering Korean war and Vietnam…
No one cared about the Senkaku Islands or Dial Yu Dao before they found oil deposits and that included the Japanese.
hallo84some interesting questions though:
1. wouldn’t cutting the insulation/seal of the undersea cables to reach the fibre-optics inside expose the fibre-optics to seawater and seabed water pressure and disrupt the flow of information going through, or at least make them vulnerable to much accelerated corrosion?
2. can you just simply hack into a fibre-optic cable, stick in some interface assembly and read what’s going through? can it be done just like tapping a phone?
3. even if the above two problems were solved you would have the problem of sorting through the massive jumble of information going through the cables. say they are tapping comms going from china to the US. there are only a few undersea cables running that route, it probably goes through japan as well. those would carry a large proportion of comms traffic from china to the US – everything from phone calls to faxes to internet downloads. how are you going to find those few classified chinese govt messages, to their Los Angeles embassy say?
you would need massive computing power. not sure if the SSN-23 can carry that.
hmmm it seems much harder than at first glance…
1. Yes it would. So the USNavy is going to have a hard time explaining to the companies that funded the cable why the thing only lasted 20 years when it was supposed to last 50. and why the hell the cable is always being cut. When the cables are cut and comm lost the company loses a heck of alot of money each time. And these cables are periodically checked for damages by ROV robots that dive to the depths to fix broken cables. You’ll see the suprised looks on the operators when they find a SSN parked there.
2. Technically it is very hard to cut a optical cable and wire them through a assembly to read the simply because under sea lines are bundles of hundreds of cables that are not only non colour coded but also not numbered. Once you cut the fibre optics and there would be a heck of a hard time putting them together and not to mention that you don’t want anyone knowing you are eves dropping.
3. It would take a super computer and miles of wirering and system much like google that searches out key tags but it would still be technically challenging to sort through all these massive jumbo of junk that passes though every minute.
hallo84Heroin users are so screwed up they are always going to want their next fix more than they fear getting caught. (Exactly who are you trying to help by putting the herion user in prison for years? The heroin user???) The war on drugs in the US hasn’t dented the number of addicts. The numbers of buyers is not going to change no matter what we do. But if heroin was legal, the price would crash, and Afghanis could make just as much money growing wheat. Which isn’t much. Perhaps we should keep heroin illegal to provide a price support for Afghani poppy growers. 😀
How american or Canadian of you… Legalize drugs 😮
That does not solve the problem and the number of junkies are only going to rise. Stupid americans figured that the amount of money spent each year fighting drugs should be cut back by legalizing these narcotics. Maybe you should toughen the laws instead. Do you know that in Taiwan the penalty for trafficing drugs is death. That alone stopped most of the foreign stuff from flowing into the place by conventional means. If you eliminate the buyers then there woulden’t be a market for afgan opium
hallo84what utter BS! :rolleyes: taiwan’s former ‘president’ was driven from office because of his infamous claims about japanese occupation being ‘good’ for taiwan, and that has played a great part in the downfall of the once all-powerful KMD party.
I don’t agree… taiwan’s former ‘president’ was Japanese.
At least his suspected father was… being in occupation during the birth of the taiwan’s former ‘president’ raised some questions as to his biological father. We have reason to believe that his mother who was an prostitute during the japanese occupation concieved of him with some japanese soldier. His studies in Japan also might have led to his Japanese influences. KMD’s downfall was due to cruption but the irony was that the La fayette case was based on the taiwan’s former ‘president’ but no one dared to charge him and that includes the present president who needed his political support. sounds weird doesn’t it!
hallo84Having or not having a Active AAM is not gonne matter much. Japanese in an emergency can field probably an Active AAM in a few months. Americans also fielded the Amraam in a few months during the first gulf war. The major problem for Americans will be the japanese industrial might. If required Japanese can Build upto a few hundred Nukes in a few days. Japanese can come up with huge amounts of weapons in a short time. if japanese start building weapons in a big way for an event like a US attack, US will have to face Huge losses before it can step on Japanese Soil.
… you’d really have to rethink what you claim of the Japanese Industrial might! After the early 90s there is no more industrial Japan but economically strong Japan. You see that the heavy industry sector took heavy losses and what’s really keeping Japan up to standards is it’s R&D in technology and seriveces sector. I’d have trouble picturing a Japan that could build hundreds of nukes in matters of days or hosting ARMAAM in weeks. There is absolutely no industrial backing for such an operation. The money is already spent in R&D of commercial products.
hallo84and the police highway patrol will get ferrari’s but without radar, laser, and radio
you mean northern Italy???
cause i’ve no idea that austria is getting them too…
Well the ferrari’s was built to run at 300km to catch high speed runaways, so it would be advisable to leave out a 4heave built in radar…
hallo84ha what a dumb incentive… take away the competition and take what ever the crap they give you. No i believe the future of Russian aviation industry lies in the death of some companies or mergers with others but definately not by taking away the competition.
hallo84No comparason since one can actually build from scratch while the latter constantly relies upon the prior…
hallo84People should just face it…
The Falklands war was basically due to the diminishing control the Brits had on the South America and this is the trend which appears to have effect all over the world. Through out the 20th century we saw the downfall of the British Empire and unwilling to admit this, egocentric Brits wage war upon all who challenge its rule. And not only with Argentina but also a number of others like Palestine etc.
Had it not been their devastated situation from WW2 they would have wage war against India as well. Thatcher actually has an excuse for making such a decision, being a woman and all she could just claim it’s her PMS acting up…
hallo84I agree that it looks very tall, but I find it hard to believe that such experienced ship builders have made any rudimentary mistakes with regards to centre of gravity.
Those pictures are at an angle, by the way. Here is a page where the beam to height ratio is easier to see:
The french carrier has high centre of weight also but i guess it never ran into any serious problems…
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