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  • in reply to: Rifling question… #2070012
    Oli
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    There’s no teeth on the shell/ bullet. The outside diameter of the round is larger than the nominal bore/ calibre (which is measured across the smaller diameter that can be seen – ie across the “tops of the teeth” in the barrel). The driving band ( bourrelet) or jacket (on small-calibre bullets) deforms is of a sufficiently large diameter to fill the gaps to the “bottom of the teeth” – which is what leaves the striations that police forensic scientists look at when they do a ballistics check.
    There’s no need to line up anything, the outside diameter is “perfectly” circular.
    Typical bullet actual diameters are not what they’re called eg 5.56 (NATO SS109 round) is 5.656 mm, 20 mm shells are actually about 19.9 but the bourrelet is large enough to fill the gaps (sorry I can’t provide more figures, I’m not at home and all my note books are 🙁 )
    The only calibre I can remember that actually has a bullet diameter that is what it’s called is 9 mm Parabellum, which also happens to weigh ~9 grammes.
    Tony Williams’ site – http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/ will have information of that sort, and he usually posts on here as well. I recommend his books, they have (OK I admit I’ve only got the autocannon one so far) huge data tables at the back with that sort of data.

    in reply to: Rifling question… #2070024
    Oli
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    The seal has to be more or less high-pressure gas-tight, otherwise the propellant gasses would just scream through the gaps and leave the projectile in the barrel.

    in reply to: Avro Vulcan – climb rate #2644579
    Oli
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    Thanks very much. I came across a 1500 metres/ min figure yesterday, and this confirms it. Thanks again.
    Oli

    Oli
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    IML must have broken up a while ago. A couple of years back while searching the net for more information on these designs I discovered that original drawings and manufacturer’s models had been sold off on E-Bay. At dirt cheap prices.
    For information, it might have been designed IN New Zealand, but I believe that the design team leader was British and did his apprenticeship at Hatfield (IIRC).
    Oli

    in reply to: Avro Vulcan – climb rate #2646869
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    The people doing the restauration or the museum may have a flight-manual?!

    There’s a thought – thanks, will get on to them ASAP
    Oli

    in reply to: Avro Vulcan – climb rate #2647053
    Oli
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    Re: your last message

    Yeah, been googling all day – where Vulcan occurs with the word climb it invariably refers to another aircraft sometime later in that document, for example the 4750 ft/min in the second example is actually referring to the F8F Bearcat. So still no luck, thanks anyway.
    Oli :rolleyes:

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    Re: speeds

    AFAIK Mach numbers mean very little at 250 ft or less. Tornado would have a far better gust response and weapons carriage is designed to be less draggy. Last I heard Tornado was (among) the fastest in the world at low level – certainly faster than the Bucc, which according Air International (I think) some years ago had an exercise in Canada, with F-4s tasked to stop them. The F-4s had to go Hi to use their speed to catch up and were bingo fuel by the time they got a missile lock. How does Tornado compare Mach-wise to a Bucc?!!
    Oli

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