Could well be – When I saw Steve Jones (great chap) of CARG by sheer chance at the Sywell Show he said that the axe is about to fall at Innsworth – (been threatened for some 5+ years now) and of course they were restoring the Monospar- I wonder where all their other bits and pieces will end up – IIRC they had quite a few turrets, including I think an immaculate Whitley turret and possibly one from a Blenheim….it was a long while ago when I went there!
In any event, the buildings they occupied were wartime canadian built sectional timber buildings in great condition (40 years of ‘jankers’ creosoting) – marked 1942 – they presumably would be up for disposal now prior to their elimination, TT
I spent a while at RAF Innsworth awaiting an overseas posting (many years ago!) and was told that the camp was taken over from the Army who used it in WW1 as a cavalry remount depot, so at least some of the buildings could be considerably older than the Canadian ones.
Russian. The Soviets were very strict when it came to the support and maintenance programs for the export customers, in the case of the Foxbat. They pretty much controlled every aspect of thier usage.
I have an English language FM for the MiG21bis that was issued to an middle eastern country as it contains one page in Arabic and that language is also used on the front cover. The FM proudly states ‘Printed in USSR’. I wonder if they loaned Soviet technicians to keep the Foxbat flying, as I don’t suppose too many in the middle east will speak Russian, but there is quite a long history of English language documents being used in the military. I once read an instruction manual for a Soviet produced anti-tank missile which was entirely in (a rather curious) English. I’m glad I have the FM for the MiG-29 in English, produced in Germany and laid out just like the US manuals in compliance with NATO StanAgs.
The few things I know about the F-84F is the hydraulically operated tail that lets the pilot turn the plane easily at high speeds without having macho muscles on the arm to do it. Previously the faster you go, the harder you have to pull on the stick as they tend to get cement bucket heavy.
Another is the reversion to a “hard” wing. Previously, F-84s use have leading edge moving slats in the wings to give it some variable camber. But in this model, they removed that, switched to a hard wing with a slight change in geometry, then added wing fences. Said to perform better at higher speeds.
I think you have confused the designation with another type. The F-86 seems more like the one you mention. The F-84F Thunderstreak did not have slats.
I have a Flight Manual for the early F-84F, and one for the F-84F-25 and up. What information specifically are you after?
I have the Flight Manual for the MiG-25 but it is in Russian. I assume India had the manuals printed in English (and I lust after a copy!) but what language was used in the Foxbat FMs of the other countries?
could this be because the idea of ‘stall speed’ is mistaken? the stall depends directly on angle of attack and not airspeed. There is a minimum airspeed below which the wing will stall because the angle of attack required to generate lift is too great, but a stall will occur at any airspeed when the angle of attack is too great. Wing loading also comes in, and wether anything like flaps or slots are used.
So to quote a stall speed we would also have to state the angle of attack and wing loading.
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Ken
As you rightly say there are many variables when it comes to stalling speeds. As far as Pilots Notes and Flight Manuals are concerned these have (usually) been assumed to have been in 1G flight (although some older FMs used to give bank and turn angles as well).
All modern (post war to date) ones show the speeds Power On, both clean or flapped, Power Off, clean or flapped, all at various weights. Just to complicate matters, some types talk of degrees Alpha!
could this be because the idea of ‘stall speed’ is mistaken? the stall depends directly on angle of attack and not airspeed. There is a minimum airspeed below which the wing will stall because the angle of attack required to generate lift is too great, but a stall will occur at any airspeed when the angle of attack is too great. Wing loading also comes in, and wether anything like flaps or slots are used.
So to quote a stall speed we would also have to state the angle of attack and wing loading.
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Ken
As you rightly say there are many variables when it comes to stalling speeds. As far as Pilots Notes and Flight Manuals are concerned these have (usually) been assumed to have been in 1G flight (although some older FMs used to give bank and turn angles as well).
All modern (post war to date) ones show the speeds Power On, both clean or flapped, Power Off, clean or flapped, all at various weights. Just to complicate matters, some types talk of degrees Alpha!
Thank you very much for correctly identifying the film I saw all those years ago. I am most grateful to you. I have read the manuals for the Ju 87 but stalling or landing speeds are just not given. In fact they were rarely mentioned in WW2 German manuals, which I find to be a surprising omission.
Thank you very much for correctly identifying the film I saw all those years ago. I am most grateful to you. I have read the manuals for the Ju 87 but stalling or landing speeds are just not given. In fact they were rarely mentioned in WW2 German manuals, which I find to be a surprising omission.
I find it quite astonishing in this day and age when computers, global positioning systems and mobile phones are commonplace that humans can still screw things up bigtime!
I find it quite astonishing in this day and age when computers, global positioning systems and mobile phones are commonplace that humans can still screw things up bigtime!
Hey, just a little fun! Why so serious? Take this as my apologization. And no, I have no inferiority complex, thanks for caring. Quid pro quo, doctor?
I am glad to hear that you are not suffering mental problems. Your apology is accepted.
BTW I have well over 1,000 Pilots Notes and Flight Manuals in my collection. Would you happen to know the stalling speeds of the Ju 87 series by any chance? I have never been able to find out although I have been searching for well over 30 years.
Hey, just a little fun! Why so serious? Take this as my apologization. And no, I have no inferiority complex, thanks for caring. Quid pro quo, doctor?
I am glad to hear that you are not suffering mental problems. Your apology is accepted.
BTW I have well over 1,000 Pilots Notes and Flight Manuals in my collection. Would you happen to know the stalling speeds of the Ju 87 series by any chance? I have never been able to find out although I have been searching for well over 30 years.
Try Here .A huge list of aviation war films with brief descriptions.
Thank you Barry. Unfortunately that site doesn’t list it either. In this instance I feel my memory is not letting me down, and the title is correct.
Try Here .A huge list of aviation war films with brief descriptions.
Thank you Barry. Unfortunately that site doesn’t list it either. In this instance I feel my memory is not letting me down, and the title is correct.