That seems large for a trainer… atm Il-76 transport is at Kevlavik though so probably not en route to Brazil.

Probably this?

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They will try to buy the cheapest Western fighter there is. Gripen or Viper, methinks..
But they will be astonished by the price tag, nevertheless..

With their close relationship with Israel, probably they will start with israeli upgraded ex-iaf f-16s

Yes and no, the Gripen series, by necessity, demonstrates conformity with both area ruling and sears-haack body shaping. Lightly equipped, the Gripen will match, or even out perform some more powerful fighters. The issues come with realistic warload and weight growth. The F-15, with it’s mach 2.5 theoretical speed, had less optimal supersonic shape that the air defense diesel F-4. Another reason why eyeball aerodynamics don’t work.

If I have to go to war over hostile territory with 3 tonnes of bombs and missiles and expect to fight enemy fighters along the way, I would take the f-16v over the gripen e everytime.

Noticeable difference from the c/d and NG prototype is the fat bulge behind and above the inlet ducts. No noticeable attempt to increase low observability features (like on super hornets) such as sawtooth edges on panel gaps.

What do you guys think about a possible Gripen NG sale to Finland?
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160428/1038783659/sweden-saab-gripen-latin-america-finland.html

Maybe this is better in the finnish airforce thread? Btw is the new fighter budget really usd 11 billion? Isn’t that higher than norways allocation for their f-35 purchase?

Production of JF-17B Dual Seat Aircraft Launched

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/173371/pakistan%2C-china-to-produce-jf_17b-two_seat-version.html

Any pictures of the twin seater?

A mh-60r price is usually quoted as usd 75million each while the nh-90 asw version is around usd 100 million each (while the utility nh-90 is only around usd 20 million).

I don’t see any reason to have 147 mh-60r for asw when other countries such as Australia only requires 24. 70 maybe but 147!?? Better to get more p-8 poseidons if they think that the asw threat is really serious.

Currently the Fins has 4 fighter squadrons

3x sqn F/A-18 (11, 21 and 31 sqn) – 61 aircraft

1x sqn Hawk 66/51a (41 sqn) – 20+ aircraft with more stored

By 2025 it could be said that both the Hornet and the Hawks need to be replaces with something new. They could go for a mix of 1 sqn of F-35 and 3 sqn of FA-50, with the FA-50 assembled by patria in the existing f/a-18 hornet plant. The FA-50 even uses similar powerplant to the hornet, enabling the continued use of f404 maintenance personnel, knowledge and equipment.

Lets say the Fins are going to replace the Hornet 1 to 1 with the F-35. A simplistic calculation of usd 150 mil a plane would see it costing around usd 9 billion. And still more money to be spend to replace the hawks.

A planned Hi-Lo buy of say, 24 F-35 with 60 FA-50. That would be usd 3.6 billion for the F-35, plus usd 2.1 billion (usd 35 mil per plane) for the FA-50 for a total of usd 5.7 billion acquisition cost. If you go for the Gripen C/D instead of the FA-50, if say those will cost usd 50 mil per plane, a force of 60 Gripen C/D would cost usd 3 billion, for a total F-35/Gripen buy of usd 6.6 billion.

Even if they are going for only 40 F-35’s. That could still cost around usd 6 billion, with half the number of airplanes of the Hi-Lo mix, and the Hawk replacement to be dealt with.

That does not take into account cheaper operational costs of using a smaller single engined F404 fighters etc etc. I think a mix of F-35 and FA-50/Gripen C/D is an option that should be considered by Finland.