Ahhhhh the Halifax class, I love those ships. The remind me of the Mk-4 Panzers of WWII, Squat things that are hard to hit and carry enough power to knock out just about anything taking them on.

I know it’s a tough call mate, but do you happen to have any pics of the flight control station?

Great pics though, thanks for sharing.

Which is great, safe for the fact that LR artillery is not exactly a hot market nowadays.

Not exactly true mate, Land 17 here in Australia is looking at the new version of the G-8 with their longer ranged artillery rounds. This is the Armys favourite for the competition but the government hasn’t made up it’s mind yet. Back in March when I was down in Avalon, they had a PzH-2000 of the Dutch army over, this is one of the contenders (Dutch are offering us 18 of their new Pinzgauer’s which are surplus to their needs in a trade deal for more Dingo Armoured Combat Vehicules).

There is a market out there for SPG’s and Mobile Artillery Systems, it’s just not as big or relevant (on this forum) as Fighters.

There were a few pics posted around at the time of the incident.

In the above pic, you can clearly see the damage just below the aft of the hanger at the waterline. Had the missile had a bigger charge or more missiles used in the attack, I doubt Hanit would be afloat today and I doubt Hezbolah would be around as a group following that.

This is what happens when you under estimate an Enemies capabilities. Israel thought that the navy would never be attacked because they are off shore. I can tell you now that they’ll never make that mistake again. As a result, the IDF/N have increased spending to cover more training and expansion of the fleet.

I wasn’t aware that they had finalised a design- I know they’ve cut the first steel though and that Italy’s Fincanterri was supposed to be helping them with the design which started looking like a Frankenstein version of the Cavor, Kuznetsov and the Mistral LHD (island structure).

CEA FAR and CEA Moutns have been quoted in Aussie dollars as under $1M and are being fitted to all 10 of the Anzac class, though the Kiwi’s are asking for time on theirs and will actually be the last ones to receive it.

Trials were conducted on HMAS Arunta with smaller systems during the development phase of the product and they proved so successfull that the American’s and a few other navies are looking at buying them as well. This info came from the CEA reps at the Airshow at Avalon.

The systems are boasting a better and cheaper performance over the more complex systems such as Aegis which have capabilities that most of the navies in the world would not require (AMBD being the fore most in my mind there).

Personally I don’t see a problem with this “Co-operative Agreement”. We have a similar agreement with our kiwi brothers across the Tasman down here. Sure they have a Navy of their own and aren’t completely defenceless, but then again if you look at Icelands Coast Guard, you’ll find that they aren’t completly defenceless either.

I did a bit of research earlier this year into the Icelandic defence situation and I came up with some rather interesting finds: one of the Icelandic ships was sunk during the Cod Wars after it deliberatly rammed an RN vessel that was on patrol in the disputed area. The RN paid for another ship out of courtsey but the war went on for a long time.

I believe that Norway should recruit from Iceland if they are going to have this joint co-operation deal, Iceland does have a fair bit of money to splash about in reality what with Japanese bribe money to support Whaling (something which both Iceland and Norway do anyway). Iceland could afford to fund 10% of the budget let alone a token contribution of 5%. Now if this happened then Norway would be able to get it’s full 48 F-35’s and posibly base a sqdn on Iceland in a rotational sence similar to what we used to do with Malaysia (RAAF Butterworth). I feel that it’s only right that if Norway operates in the Icelandic area then Iceland should contribute extra man power to help take up the slack- otherwise the Norwegian defence will over stretch itself and have to pull back leaving a nasty feeling between two good friend over something that couldn’t be helped.

As with everything, there are pros and cons for the situation. It just depends on the terms of the agreement struck between the two countries and the pollitical climate that the world lives in today.

Did a biyt more digging around, hope this helps you guys…

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