Here’s a Lancaster fuselage window which was lying on the surface in an area in Quarrywood, Elgin, which was used to dump WW2 aircraft wreckage from the MUs RAF Lossiemouth and RAF Kinloss. Other bits lying round were Lancaster parts, beyond doubt.
As you can see, the outer surface has been painted over completely with dark earth/dark green camo – maybe the sprayer used the window as a demarcation marker.

Underneath this camo paint is a layer of night black paint. It’s definitely on the outside, as the only paint on the inside surface is primer green.

Hope that helps…

Paul / anyone?
I would certainly be interested in knowing if any Lincoln bomb aimers nose glazing sections are remaining at the RAF Kinloss site
regards
Mark Pilkington

I doubt if anything much remains now Mark – here are some public domain photos to illustrate the situation. I’ve marked on the 1946 RAF recce photo where the 2009 photo corresponds – showing just how much the area has been cleaned up and flattened since even 1983…

That window is a fantastic find! Any other items?

Peter – I’m sure my wife has ‘tidied’ a lot of my stuff into the bin, but I did find this while rummaging around today – also from the surface of Quarrywood. It’s made of clear plastic (or thick acetate), with a black painted underside…

As expected in this forum, most of the replies to this thread are littered with sneering contemptuous one-liners, intended as racial put-downs, which is one of the reasons we want independence. Some of you can’t even spell Scotland, yet deign to pass comment.
And it’s OK to do this, because a moderator is one of the guilty.
Reading these replies, you’d think that all Britain’s wealth, gold reserves, armed forces materiel, and other national assets were purely under English ownership. Not true – Scotland has paid it’s fair share of taxes for hundreds of years, so is due that percentage of the assets as her own – although putting a blow torch to the crown jewels might be a step too far.
Anyone who thinks Scotland can’t become a thriving, prosperous nation is deluded. Having similar populations of around five million, we are directly comparable to countries like Norway and Denmark, who have been recently voted two of the happiest nations on Earth. Norway, in particular, is the fourth wealthiest nation in the world, according to Forbes, simply due to oil production. It’s population pay high taxes, but they don’t actually mind, because they know they are being well served, and that the money is spent making their lives and surroundings very pleasant.
International law is quite strict about territorial waters, and has robust guidelines for the definition of national boundaries. A whopping 98% of the oil fields (and future oil fields) would be in Scottish waters – and even the 6000 square miles of southern North Sea which Tony Blair and the treacherous Donald Dewar annexed and redrew for England in 1999 would have to be given back. It’s the law, you see.
While current oil fields are beginning to decrease in production, it’s estimated that there is far more oil still there than has been taken out – it’s just more inaccessible, and will take 21st technology to retrieve, but the main point is that it is there, like having money in the bank.
But it’s not all about money – we are a totally different people, having to live with decisions of whatever Westminster party comes to power. Tory Party policies in particular are a complete anathema to most Scots – we view their outdated (but alive!) class system, and feudal money-grabbing private ownership of everything with complete disdain. It’s obscene to spend so much money on things like Trident, when the National Health Service is in such poor shape, and our own elderly and poor are written off. All because ‘Great’ Britain wants to sit at the top table!
To me, independence is an incredible chance to get things right, to rid ourselves of successive governments who simply look on the mass of tax-payers as a money cow to be cynically milked, to emerge as a caring society where people, not status or power, comes first. It is possible, too – just ask the Danes and Norwegians!
And all these so funny remarks about Alex Salmond and his deputy – GROW UP! He is one of the most able politicians of our generation, which is why the ‘No’ campaign, and Cameron in particular, are petrified to take him on. Salmond and the SNP have done far more for Scotland in the few years they have been in power than Westminster has done in centuries.
And it would be a mistake to think that Alex Salmond doesn’t know exactly what he is doing – do you really think that keeping the same currency (and Royal Family come to that) is the long-term plan? Every move he makes, or doesn’t make, is carefully planned to show up and side-step ‘Perfidious Albion’.

And Salmond so entirely epitomises the breed.

Is that breed as in ‘half breed’? Are you aware of how zenophobic and ‘master race’ that sounds?

Well If Scotland is to keep all the oil revenue, then it’s only fair that they pay the lions share of the national dept, which is how many billions or is it trillions?

Incredible logic.
If England wanted independence, could Scotland keep London? If we take on our share in the national debt, then it follows that we take our share of the national assets, too!