Looking forward to seeing it – thanks for posting!
My German Shepherd Rolphie, when he was a fiesty wee pup…


and as he is now…
but his Teutonic roots are never far from the surface…
My German Shepherd Rolphie, when he was a fiesty wee pup…


and as he is now…
but his Teutonic roots are never far from the surface…
In addition to the fuel needed for the transit from Kinloss, the Nimrod would have been also carrying extra fuel to get them back to Kinloss, or to another pre-planned diversion, had their destination airfield been unable to take them. You can’t expect the rules of leasing/buying/selling commercial aircraft to apply to the MoD….
Looking at the photographs on the link I see there are a couple of RAF bowsers standing by. Presumably they are there to de-fuel the aircraft, which is bit un-helpful if they want to keep it in running condition.
Unhelpful? You mean the RAF should have given away maybe 20,000 lbs of AVTUR as well as supplying the aircraft?
Dunno, but the Ju188F-1 was. Maybe it was an aid to target aquisition, finding cloud breaks for visual photography…
There is a great documentary called ‘Night Bombers’ which was shot in colour at RAF Hemswell in 1943, and goes through the various stages of preparation for a ‘maximum effort’ raid on Berlin for Lancaster squadrons.
The aircrew attending the main briefing were pilots, navigators and bomb aimers, a mixture of NCOs and officers. The briefing starts as the base commander, station commander and squadron commanders enter the room.
First brief is performed by the ‘Met’ man, then the flying Control Officer, the intelligence officer, a squadron commander, the station commander, then finally a word from the base commander, an AOC.
The aircrew then depart to pick up personal items such as their Irvine suits, Mae Wests, parachutes, etc…
How to lose 1/2 stone in one day – only another 5.5 stone to go…
Apparently the Rothes Ju188 crash gets a mention in ‘The Blitz, then and now Vol 3’ on page 381. I’ve ordered a copy from Amazon, but maybe someone who owns the book can tell us what it says about it?
I found another mention of it ‘hitting a hill’ near Rothes, but that doesn’t tell us if it broke up in mid-air at a higher altitude (where a recce aircraft should be!), or actually flew into the hill while low flying.
Sunset back then would have been around 22:20pm, sunrise 04:13am, so perhaps the crew was trying to photograph a few targets at first light, before most people arose.
High altitude Luftwaffe recce photos were usually taken around 30,000 feet, but the radar-equipped Ju188F-1 may have been ‘stooging around’ at low level to get some oblique images. I wonder what their targets were? Lossiemouth, Kinloss, or… Glen Grant distillery?:eek:
StuartH and I visited the yard again this lunchtime, and can confirm the two sections are indeed from the same Hunter – the cut joins up neatly, and the canopy rails are identical.
The yard is so overgrown with gorse, broom and birch that it’s difficult to see everything on a short visit, and more parts are identified each time. Today we looked at two sections of Sea Balliol cockpit, one (right side photo) with the bottom of a control column, and a throttle quadrant. Sorry for the quality, but my mobile phone is a measly 1 megapixel…
Other parts were a Gannet intake, and a strake, possibly Jaguar, or maybe Lightning..
A collie (sorry… colleague) of mine visited the yard again yesterday, and found some cockpit sections I’d missed on my short visit. One looks like an RAF Hunter, but any ideas what the one with the ‘Explosive Canopy’ triangle is from?
Re the Sea Venoms -Lucky for you ‘Al’ is just a pseodonym then eh Graham?
Too true Tristram….
The bungalow has three german shepards running about so watch your self:dev2:
I can handle them – my two respond quite well to getting a **** over the head with a rolled up newspaper…
New post on a recent visit to a now disused Moray aircraft scrapyard here….
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=99389&highlight=quarrywood
I remember this picture adorned many aircrew walls as a flight safety poster and often appeared in “Air Clues” the RAF Flight safety magazine. Do you remember Wing Commander Spry ?
Air Clues and Spry are still with us…
Great photos of a stunning aircraft.
Did wartime Me109s ever fly in that scheme?
I can vouch for parts of aircraft being buried on purpose. If you go to 40 Hilltop Road, Forres, Moray, and start digging about three feet from the southern gable end, you’ll find a prop blade from Argosy XP439!