It appears that the aircraft’s individual code is ‘T’ Tommy and if it was a PFF aircraft, then it more than likely served with 8 Group.

Off the top of my head the following 8 Group squadrons flew Lancasters at one time, some for a short period.

7
35
97
109
156
405
582
635

While it’s not a knighthood, it’s a good start! 🙂

Silly comment, they don’t do posthumous Knighthoods, after all it would be a bit hard for the Queen to tap him on the shoulders with a sword he’s been dead the best part of 70 years.

Despite this it’s a good move on behalf of Eastleigh Borough Council. Not a Looney Left majority then. It will probably be thrown out, so as not to upset the Germans !!!!!

EN830 – Neville Duke and present ebay sale totally different! His medals awarded to him as an individual – beleive he sold them a) because of break ins at his property and b) because his wife needed a hip-operation.

My point was that like Neville Duke, this item is the property of the person who is selling it, he can do with it as he seems fit. If he decided to build one big bonfire out of his collection there is nothing anyone can do to stop him.

We are talking about the murky waters of donations to museums and whether an individual member/leader/associate has a claim/right on those items as appears to be the case here.TT

Wouldn’t the definition of the word have some substance i.e.

If it is Donated then surely ownership is past to the museum.

If it is Loaned then ownership remains with the person or persons loaning the item.

However what if an item is put into trust with the museum, would the Trustees have guidance over what can or can not be done the items under the terms of a trust agreement or similar ?

The museum is not without its faults, a few years ago I had a conversation with a respected airframe restorer who told me that a set of engines (or the remains of) owned by him and loaned to the museum, were unceremoniously scrapped by the museum as surplus to requirement without contacting him, as the rightful owner, before hand.

None of your are criticising Neville Duke for not donating his medals to the museum rather than selling them to a private collector in order to pay for his wife’s hip operation !!!! They have a huge significance to the museum, but after all were his to dispose of as he sought fit and for whatever reason.

I’ve bought and sold many aviation related items over ebay for profit, I’ve also bought items to enhance my collection. If my wife was more understanding I would quite happily fork out for this sign and hang it in our hall way, where I can admire it and reflect on its history, I certainly wouldn’t feel guilty about not donating it or loaning it to a museum.

My point is that at the end of the day if this guy is the rightful owner of these items, then they are his to dispose off at his leisure and in any way he seems fit. If he makes a profit good on him, and to be quite honest who are we to criticise?

No.3 Is a C-160 Transall

Yep, you’re right, slightly different to a B52 :rolleyes:

Not sure about No1,

No2 = F111
No3 = Argosy
No4 = Shorts 360
N05 = ?
No6 = DH Dragon Rapide
No7 = BAe 146

I believe a He111 was shot down into the Channel off of Portishead, possibly during 1941.

I don’t have the details to hand here (I’m at work), but I do recall parts being retrieved from the wreck a couple of years ago. If no one else comes up with the details before I get home, I’ll have a look to see what I can find.

Edited to say that a DO17 was shot down off of Portishead by an 87 Sqn Hurricane on the night of 26 July 1940.See here

Edited again to say that a 263 Sqn Gladiator was lost 07 April 1940 after loosing control in low cloud during formation flight; the aircraft dived into the sea off Portishead, Somerset.

Not sure if he’s still alive but if not a posthumous one for Jeffrey Quill at the same time, likewise R J Mitchel.

Not possible unfortunately, they have to be alive.