minimans : I know from tuning Subaru boxer engines that the headers also contribute a huge difference to the sound with a marked difference between equal and unequal length headers.
If the growl is there irrespective of manifolds, stubs or ejectors and exists throughout the rev range it must to be the firing order as per Beermat #45 giving uneven pulses and harmonics that produce the growl.
While we are pondering the meaning of life and where the growl comes from I thought those that haven’t already seen it might like to watch the whirly bits of a Packard Merlin 266 for 30 secs or so.
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Post by Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (Official).
Is it to do with the Ejector exhausts that the Merlin has? Does the Griffon have the same shape and the same flow rates as the Merlin?
By using Ejector exhausts the equivalent of nearly 70 horsepower was obtained by angling the flow backwards rather than sideways and this increased the level maximum speed of the Spitfire by 10 mph.
Earliest versions of the ejector exhausts featured round outlets and later versions of the system used “fishtail” style outlets which marginally increased thrust as it “squashed” the exhaust gasses. The main bonus being it reduced exhaust glare for night flying.
Volume of air and the speed at which the exhaust gases exit the exhaust stubs would have an impact on the resulting sound made. Think of it like a wind instrument perhaps?
AgCat – My order came within the 28 days mentioned but was short of one item. I had to wait a while after my email chasing it up to be notified of a refund as it was out of stock.
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You could also ask at any of the larger Fire Stations as some Fire Rescue Units are equipped with radiation detection devices.
TonyT, there were some strange promotions at that time. His regular pilot stayed a Sgt right through OTU and HCU courses and only became F/Sgt after starting their 1st tour of opps at 101.
How many “Flypasts” make a display? What’s the accepted norm? I have seen some flypasts that were just that. A single run left to right or right to left. Probably what they did at Ludford for the 101 reunion on Sunday. So we got far more than I was expecting.
Moaning Minnie: Perhaps they could have fired some tracer or had an AA battery let rip on them and then had a few bale out just to make it more hype worthy. What about a Bf 110 appearing out of the sun to mingle with them. I would think having 3 Lancs in close proximity to each other would be more than enough to satisfy most people. After all they did exactly what it said on the tin so no surprises there.
AgCat: Bit of a sausage machine like you say but luckily it broke down on my tour. The expected 45 minutes turned into a 1 hour 15 minute extravaganza. It was so busy that Sue had to shut the Merlins tea room a little early as she had sold out of food. We bagged some coffee and had a catch up with her before we headed home though.
Apparently Mary the riveter is a bit miffed as she had been in the garden hanging out washing all last week and did not get so much as a glimpse.
This is for you Mary. :eagerness:
Not very open and friendly.The North/South divide still exists? Well in some peoples minds. Whatever next? Home rule for Yorkshire? My father was a Yorkshireman and often ventured South but only after having his shots.
My apologies, I was under the impression that this was a discussion forum; I shall restrict in future my suggestions to that the RAF Museum continues to do exactly what it has been doing for the last fifty years and wonder why its intended audience has either died-off or has stayed-away in droves!
Only if your views fit in with the hierarchy. Wearing an anorak helps as well.
I can sympathize but do not despair as according to the Forum Code Of Conduct (Updated 2012 Please Read!) which some of us have read :-
“The underlying principle forming the basis of this forum is to further all our knowledge bases of aviation through group input. Join us with a welcome attitude and an open mind and we look forward to your input.”
Keep calm and carry on. :eagerness:
It’s a shame museums/air shows cannot go back to those halcyon days of yesteryear pre H&S when you and a couple of pals could get up close to the exhibits. St.Eval circa 1957
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I think Vera uses 4 Packard-built Merlin 224 engines each with a two-speed single stage supercharger and turbine blades falling out is not good.
Technical Details: Rolls-Royce Merlin 224
Engine Type: 12-cylinder liquid-cooled V
Power: 1680 hp (1253 kW) at 3000 RPM at +18 lbs. boost at sea level and 1500 hp. at 9000 feet.
Weight: 1500 lb (680 kg)
Cylinders: bore 5.4 in (137 mm), stroke 6 in (152 mm)
Displacement: 1647 cu in (27 litres)
The capacity of the Merlin was quite small when compared to the opposition. The Merlin was 27 litres, whereas the DB601 of the Messerschmitt 109 was 36 litres (1,175 hp.) and the BMW801 engine of the Focke-Wulf 190 had 42 litres (1,700 hp.).
Best case just the oil seals went letting oil into the inlet hence the smoke. Worst case the bearings went putting debris into the oil system or the impeller broke up putting debris into the inlet track. Latter less likely as debris going into the top of the engine normally results in instant seizure rather than a controlled shut down. I am more au fait with turbos letting go on rolling roads but essentially the result is the same – expensive and time consuming.