US NAVY have clearly said the APG-81 jamming is only a nice to have feature which cannot replace dedicated jammers. We have already been through this before, please use the search function and look it up if you’re new, I am tired of repeating the same..

Not this again. Have some people still not noticed that the ASQ-239 does jamming?

http://breakingdefense.com/2013/04/beyond-f-35-rep-forbes-and-adm-greenert-on-cyber-drones-and-carr/

The Marines will develop an electronic warfare pod to augment their F-35s, Amos said, but even without such additional equipment — just using the plane’s standard built-in systems — an F-35B “has about, probably, 85 percent” of the capability of the latest Prowler.

So 85% of the ability of a dedicated EW aircraft with just IEWS.

http://www.baesystems.com/en/product/an-asq-239-f-35-ew-countermeasure-system

The system provides the pilot with maximum situational awareness, helping to identify, monitor, analyze, and respond to potential threats. Advanced avionics and sensors provide a real-time, 360-degree view of the battlespace, helping to maximize detection ranges and provide the pilot with options to evade, engage, counter or jam threats.

Always active, AN/ASQ-239 provides all-aspect, broadband protection, allowing the F-35 to reach well-defended targets and suppress enemy radars.

The radar thing is about high-power jamming at range and RF cyberwarfare. And, if Keypubs is to be believed, that is just one of the ‘other’ apertures the ASQ-239 can call on, as well as it’s own dedicated jammers. Not having the ability to blank out sectors of a radar with a blur of crap from range and across the spectrum like an EA-18G, does not mean it doesn’t have jamming. 85% of a dedicated EW aircraft is pretty good for an IEWS though.

Everything.. EW is one of the most guarded secrets of all aircraft manufacturers. Even such trivial things as flares can be optimized against specific missile seekers if you can find one.. EW is even much more complex thing.

The methods of jamming are well know and the ability to process signals is crucial to deception jamming. The US ability is at least as good as the Russian’s in that field. There is no statistical record of EW denying all or nearly all BVR shots, and even if they did, the smaller aircraft, with less thrust, will have the lower heat signature.

You can’t be serious 🙂

In the Cold War they managed.

LM is the epitome and living monument of dishonesty in the aerospace world. All others are just pupils..

Oh I don’t know, the whole Dassault active cancellation thing is pretty dishonest. At least LM aren’t trying to pass off a non-stealth aircraft as a stealth aircraft. And you know, the F-35 might just be very good.

Funny.. In that logic, would make 30mm that much better then.
Is the new gun a rotary gatling type or a singel barrel gun?

Something smells funny here.. for years I have witness pro US guys chanting about the awesome rounds/per minute of the 20mm on F-16 and that this was allways preferable over the 30mm singel barrel gun on SU/Russian jets..

So.. a change of heart?

4 barrel gatling. 30mm weighs more, bigger, needs more power, rounds take up more space. It’s a compromise. Well the 30mm on the Russian jets… You ask them how many firings it actually lasts in reality, even at a much lower RoF. Studies have also shown that after 2,000spm, the hit rate improves dramatically, it isn’t a linear thing. Twice the fire rate gets 4 times as many hits on a target of given size typically.

So why did they decide to replace 20mm with 25mm?
It would mean less rounds to spray, that right there is more a Con and not a Pro..

Well a 25mm round contains 3 times as much explosive as a 20mm round. So a single hit is more deadly. It’s the difference between a whole in the wing and a missing wing. To put things in perspective, it contains 32g of HE, and 40mm rifle grenades contain 32-48g. So it’s effectively a Mach 3+ rifle grenade vs a bullet. So instead of 60 bullets, you get 34 Mach 3+ rifle grenades. Also much better for ground attack at 6500ft.

Also makes guidance kit easier to fit later.

its you whom suggesting this, so by whom did US get a hold of Russian Knirti jammer pods.. India, Malaysia.. lol.

Um utter fail, LM once said true SC was up the Mach numbers imo F-22.
that is until F-35 came around.. suddenly every other Manufactor could also do SC on their jets cause F-35 could “unload” at 20k feet and go over Mack 1.0 without AB.

there are lies and then there are LM lies it seems..

They said a limited supercruise ability. They never said anything else. In fact they even said it didn’t do true supercruise like the F-22.

They often managed to get hold of Russian equipment during the Cold War, it’s not inconceivable, besides, it’s somewhat unrealistic to assume the technology is vastly different. Jamming methods are well known by both sides.

Of course none, but there is a theoretical possibility of planting a bomb on the plane.

But, again, there were reports hinting that the plane was in poor technical condition (plus, it did suffer some damage around its tail before) and the operating company has liquidity issues and a history of technical problems on its rather old planes (like, catching fire, but they were Tupolev’s FWIW) so it shouldn’t be conveniently presumed that it was foul play before the investigation is over.

All true. Egyptian officials seemed very quick to say there was nothing suspicious. Just throwing that in there.

Review that Mikheil Saakashvili is now wanted by Georgian authorities for crimes against his own people.