er, having French Guyana, why would they operate feom Senegal?

had it been the French, you’d have had two aircraft carriers armed with Crusaders for air to air and Super Etendards for bombing, among other nice things, and the Foreign Legion on the ground… Chances are Argentina wouldn’t even try that stunt

I think if the Ark Royal (with F-4Ks) hadn’t been decommissioned, that would have deterred Argentina too. An F-4K with Skyflash and AIM-9L would have ran a train through the Argentine air force.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(R09)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom_II_in_UK_service

Germany lost the war ( and it’s allies ), but what do you think of this new “document” ?

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

Our of curiosity I wanted to watch a bit & went to the youtube channel.

“This youtube channel is not available in your country”

Ah the joys of censorship in freedom land.

I think the full story of WWII became hidden under a veil of political correctness. Nobody will speak of the Danzig/Bromberg massacres in 1939, not to mention the Versailles Treaty. Ridiculously enough, Hitler’s actions actually left Germany better off. Nobody can condone Hitler’s genocide but the whole story is far less polarised than many have been led to believe.

Here is an odd factoid…

The larger the radar is, the “stealthier” its LPI modes can be.

Seems logical. Bigger radar, stronger return, easier to piece together frequencies, therefore can switch more often.

Agreed.
Problem is we French don’t have the same collective recollection of war than the British, very much due to the fact that last world wars were fought a lot on our soil, and also very much to the WWII german occupation. Even though the world wars was very painful for England and the US, they had the luck to never see nazi boots in their streets. And that was even more painful, not only for the French, but for a good part Europe. I find that British/US have a much more lighter tone when talking about war in general. And make fun of others…
When you have family members who have been resistant, some others who have been deported… etc . It’s not fun any more, and these “surrender…” stories are very tiresome.

Well look on the positive side of that. If we had had Nazi boots on our mainland*, D-Day and the liberation of France would have been somewhere between really f*cking difficult and impossible and may well have ended up with parts of France nuked. That said, Germany got out of a really big bill a lot easier than they should have.

And we do pay tribute to the French resistance, have you never seen ‘Allo Allo’?:D

*They did take an island.

Why do people post these threads, it’s not like companies don’t produce publicly available annual results.

In Waterloo english were far from alone. Ever heard about Blucher and prussian, german and nederlands army?

In Trafalgar, French were far from alone but same result, France didn’t even land a single blow. You’ll have to do better than shooting some peasant in the eye with an arrow a thousand years ago.

Sigh. Who said that Libya did not have the longer ranged version of the system in service? Nobody is the answer. (Just in case you are struggling with the truthful answer.)
Having the longer ranged version in service does not exclude the shorter range variant still being operational. Therefore, as I suspect the French journo had a conversation with those who know a little more about the op and the opposing kit than you or I, until there is some definite data that shows the system the French were up against was the longer ranged one I’m open to it being either.
(Your position on this is another strange contradiction, if the French were opposed by the longer ranged variant as you insist they fact that they were still comfortable operating in that contested airspace weakens your argument. Unless of course you are actually implying without saying it that the French are lying and the airspace was not contested. If that is the case grow a pair and say it rather than imply it.)
You however seem hell bent on being “right!”
You’ve been shown to be wrong with regard to Meteor operational use, hilariously just after making a comment about people playing top trumps too much, and slightly more damningly you’ve been shown to make exaggerated claims for documents that you believe support your position.

I admitted being wrong on Gripen and Meteor. Given the follow-up by swerve it was clearly a genuine case of misunderstanding when another article said ‘limited use’.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?136822-Typhoon-vs-Rafale&p=2268202#post2268202

The range wasn’t the only thing I pointed out to be incorrect in those 2 papers, the AASM cost was also wrong. I admit is technically possible that Gaddafi was still using 5V24s (1961) but very unlikely, considering how old the first 5V27s are. How likely is it that the paper knew, not very. I’m also still trying to find a source to support 15km:

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-S-125-Neva.html#mozTocId912634

Who exaggerated claims for documents? I posted a government supported document produced by the RAND organisation and someone else posted a link to a blog-spot that linked to two unofficial French articles (one of which was another blog) with 1, possibly 2 errors.

Actually France was the ones who discovered the Falklands before it became British. Lets say France holds onto this territory and in the 80s Argentina decides to take it away from France.

Not quite true, the French settled their first (by a few months) in early 18th century, but there are various claims as to who first discovered it from British, French, Dutch etc. in the early 17th century.

And also some less plausible claims that Argentinians may have paddled there on canoes/rafts with hunting dogs to hunt, across the rough seas of the South Atlantic, across 350 miles, with no compass, taking several weeks, day and night…. because they found a bone on the islands, which could have come from one of the hunting dogs… and there’s absolutely no place they could have hunted on the South American mainland.:rolleyes: