How did they justify building Culdrose at the time, with Predannack a stones throw away and Perranporth not much further?
Both Predannack and Perranporth were RAF(Air Ministry) and the Admiralty needed a new airfield in that part of the world, thats one story I have been told.
My father actually worked on the farm that is now Culdrose prior to the airfield being built.
Possibly the last use of the Green engine (modernised) was in the Avro Baby and a small number of these were built at Peterborough by Peter Brotherhood and Co,(a well known engine manufacturer) whose records may still be in existance in the Peterborough achives.
John
A Green engine is on show at the Fleet Air Arm Museum if thats any help, I must admit I know no details about it.
Ollie, I am sorry if you took offence to my question, it was just that your post seemed to suggest you had something against this airframe being preserved, as for the radome, its what it was fitted with when it served in the Falklands as 820NAS was by then a HAS5 equipped unit, personally I would have liked to have seen it in the scheme it wore just post Falklands, all markings toned down except for the airframe serial and the Sqdn badge on the nose
My reading of it seems to be that it hasn’t been 100% confirmed that it was this airframe yet, any update Seaking93?
I have checked the 820NAS Record Book for this period, it mentions the incident but not the airframe number, sadly other documents that would show the serial number are not held by FAAM, ATC logs from Culdrose and the flying logs from the squadron, although FAAM has a lot of records of this type, the records from 1981 are not among them. The search goes on, I will look at other avenue’s.
The shame of it is that this particular airframe is at present awaiting display at the FAAM not because of it’s involvment in that particular rescue, but due to the fact that it was flown (P2) BY H.R.H Prince Andrew in the South Atlantic.
Not entirely correct, FAAM was given a list of airframe numbers that were available at Sultan, the basic history where known of each airframe was checked, then the condition, XZ574 had taken part in 2 rescues in the Falklands and had the added bonus that it had been flown by the museums patron, so thats why it was chosen, not JUST because the DoY had flown it.
Ollie you seem to have a problem with this airframe being preserved, why?
Having checked some docs I am not 100% sure yet but I believe the airframe was XZ574 which is currently stored in the FAAM reserve collection, Cobham Hall, it will be on show next year in the 100 Years of Naval Aviation exhibition in the main museum.
What i know of the incident and just looking through a book i have to comfirm it, its recorded as being a 820 RNAS aircraft “016” I have’nt got a tail number to go with that but i’m sure it would’nt take much to find out. As for if its still in service?, looking at the date it was probably a Mk2 at the time as Mk5,s were just coming in, so probably its since been converted to higher standard. Hope this helps, and its correct more over, i’ll keep digging…:)
I can confirm it was a HAS5 at the time and I am pretty sure I know the serial number and that its no longer in service, however I will check tomorrow just to make sure rather than posting duff gen.
In 1981 771NAS was equipped with the Wessex HU5 and covered dawn to dusk with one of the resident(front line included) Sea King sqdns covering dusk to dawn under a DOT funded agreement.
From memory it was an 820NAS cab that was involved and I think it might have been 016, I will check when I go to work in the morning and report back, thats unless someone comes up with the answer before.
The FAAM shop has as expected no copies of the film left, the FAAM film archive has copies, the VHS tape box shows that the originators of the film were indeed FONA(Flag Officer Naval Aviation), so the film is Crown Copyright.
I will investigate the possibility of copies being made as and when I get time and will report back, best I can do at the moment.
It might also be worth contacting the public relations officer at Yeovilton as they actually hosted the event and may have kept a copy for their records.
Martin, sorry again your a bit behind the times, currently there is no PRO at Yeovilton, they hope to have someone in post at some stage in 2009. In the meantime the CRO is covering some aspects of the job, I will speak to him in the morning.
OK I have established that this is definitely an official, in house production. Even more surprisingly than locating the video, given the chaos that passes for my library, I have managed to find the official programme. See I said I was a real sad person. The programme was done by HMS Daedalus graphics. As Daedalus is long since closed I would contact Flag Officer Naval Air at Yeovilton. I suspect that is probably the only hope of getting a copy as I don’t have any means of making a CD from it.
Martin
Sorry Martin no such thing as Flag Officer Naval Air at Yeovilton, no doubt your thinking of FONAC or FONA which replaced him, both now long gone, all now run from Portsmouth by someone whose title seems to change by the month, very long shot I know but I will have a look in the FAAM shop in the morning for you, just in case
Here’s a few shots taken on the day prior:
Nice to hear Vic Sirett’s dulcet tones again!
Uncle Vic, now there was a man, one day I met him showing his guest for the day the Avenger in the FAAM, he explained to his guest that as a very young man he flew one of these monsters onto the deck of a carrier, guest looked suitably impressed and asked a lot of questions, the guest was Nigel Mansell.
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That would have been Ernie, then recently retired mechanic from the local Ford garage…….a born again aircraft spotter and a real gentleman. (RIP). Yep, I gave him a set.QUOTE]
I remember Ernie very well.
I seem to recall that he didn’t possess a telescopic lens for his camera. Instead, he would take a picture with a standard lens and have those he liked enlarged! RIP Ernie.
Does anyone remember my cousin Chris L – the ex-milkman from Helston who was at St Mawgan most Wednesdays?
Oh yes I know Chris very well and his brother Jeremy, last year I had one of those ‘its a small world’ moments, had just walked onto the ramp at Aviation Nation at Nellis AFB and who was standing next to me but, Chris, Jeremy and another well known member of the Helston spotting fraternity.
That would have been Ernie, then recently retired mechanic from the local Ford garage…….a born again aircraft spotter and a real gentleman. (RIP). Yep, I gave him a set.
I took this photo on the same day as XV257 incident, a 12 Squadron Bucc doing only what a Bucc could do.
Ernie, I second that, a really nice man, remember him well
Latest news tonight on Spotlight Southwest is that the ‘airport’ may not be open until Christmas as there is now a problem with the run off area’s.
Another memory was 26th September 1982, standing on the hedge at the ‘Cornish Alps’ end, USMC C130’s landing over the road, bright blue sky, unknown to me my first child had just been born 11 days early, no mobile phones in those days. Also going up on a Sunday morning to see ZR coded RF4C’s, those were the days.