Pakistan is receiving suh things as Orions and other such weapons to fight the so called war on terror, btw weapons that India has not really cared much to make a fuss about simply because they wont change much, besides much of those weapons ome in the form of millitary aide not purchases. F-16s are a different story, they are a mojor weapon purchase and INdia will lobby hard to get it at least delayed, hello India has done this very well for at least the last 5 years now, remember Bush saying “no no f-16s”, besides no F-16 is confirmed yet, only pakdef reports and newspaper reports, no final decision yet, that is India’s strategy, delay the deal as much as possible.
As far as Soviet Union comment by another member, Pakistan was not the catalyst to its downfall, the reason for the SU’s downfall are numerous but it is really because their soialist system was failing and could not keep up with the west, the Afgan war only speeded up the downfall.

Yet you are still assuming that for the 4-5 years that this deal was on the negotiating table, the IN never sent experts to check up on the true health of the ship, do you actually think that they are so stupid as just to walk around and say “hey nice looking ship, it looks so new, we will buy it” Come on that is a bit naive, in fact we are even getting into liability matters here and this is why there is a contract, the IN cleared the ship as being fit enough, another interesting news item for u lads, the IN actually can tell if a ship is really in bad shape or not, its naive to think that they would fall for a paint job for 4 damn years, come on guys be realistic.

There are only two groups who know of the atual condition of the Gorshkov, one the IN who made frequent visits and cleared it and the Russians, both sides laim that the ship is fine and fit, the IN is spending billions on the ship, the thing that amazes me here is the fact that people seem to think that the IN is so stupid that they fell for a Russian painting trick?

Give it a break, sure u can critisize the Gorshkov for various things like probable lower sortie rates than any other carrier its size but that was the only short run option and the IN was not interested in the INvinsible.

The inferiority complexed lads will continue to post unrelated posts on the thread, how pathetic. Please stick to INdia and Israel posts here.

Now that was completely unrelated to aviation wasn’t it?

And that kick my dog comment, it was the other way around, it was a Pakistani calling an INdian, go listen to it again and note “just because I am a pxxxx does not mean i stink” 🙂

Here we go again. 🙂

It is sad that a person who claims to have worked for stok markets an make suh a basi chapter one mistake by comparing different stock exchanges in different categories all together, i pity the lies that come from certain memebrs here.

Again chapter 3 Bredley and Meyers MBA book, go buy it lol

The so called PAF theory is great, keep it up, I am surprised that only 90% of the IAF is obsolete. 🙂

SAGEM is a great company but tends to be quite expensive, look for the jf-17 to break the 20 million mark.