You know this always happens, whenever a high ranking official visits a country that manufactures aircraft, be it the US, Grance, China, Sweden etc, stories suddenly appear in the Pakistani press, the fans get excited, and then the host country ends up denying it aka its just not true. One has to question the credibility of those local papers and maybe these are written for local consumption rather than what will actually happen, hence it would be wise for all Pakistanis to wait till a contract is signed, at least wait till the other side confirms the news and says the same thing too, or else it does nothing but ridicule Pakistani newspapers and the ones that post it. IN a few years pakistan will get the J-10, so cheer up, 4.1B for Gripens, that is moe than your defence budget, too expensive, the J-10 will be cheaper and the Chinese will provide friendly terms of payment, just be patient, it will eventually come.

Is this the great reliable source that PAF FAN has been jumping up and down about?

We still await the forecastintlink but then again the Swedes have denied it which brings the PAF back to square one.

I remember making this bet a few pages ago

“If the story is true, all the PAF FANS of the world can crowd out this forum with whatever they wish and noone should do anything about it but if it yet another BS story, then they should forever stop posting such nonsense until the contract is signed”

For one thing, your link does not work Saleem, secondly the IAF operates about 24 Il-76s, hence what a sad source you have, oh well keep on trying, you may eventually get it right.

While it is hard to argue about quality of the 21st century PAF pilot vs the IAF pilot in this forum, we can surely compare, as our great friend Saleem would say “IAF still lacks behind PAF in skill training, acquiring good quality pilots and the infrastructure to train pilots”, note the infrastructure part, which is plain dumb because it is a fact that the IAF infrastructure is more advanced than that of the PAF.
“Pakistan is buying Mirage 3 & 5 from everywhere because this aircraft its backbone. Dassault has bascially stopped making spare parts and is forceing the current useres to buy its new line of aircrafts”
I dont think so Hatoum, Dassault has continued to sell spare parts to Mirage 3 and 5 users and there is no evidence of any pressure but I am sure that you can back this up with a reliable source!
WHile you are at it, may I also know the name of this European country from which the IAF bought 70 MiG-21s just last year, this has to be the biggest news in years to all of us Indians? 🙂

Aries or Ares lol please see what I wrote before you spit your nasty words, I refer you to the Mirage 2nd hand Lybian to Pak thread

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Phrozenflame could you please tell me what flaming means?
Sabre Ace did not use any racial slurs and talked about aviation?
I seem to be quite confused as to how that qualifies as a flame?

in any event we are all waiting for a workable link to the so called forecast international article on the Griphen thread

NOTE THE LAST TWO LINES, HOPE THAT THIS HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND A BIT BETTER, I HAVE A FEW MORE IF YOU STILL DON’T GET IT. 🙂

Ares, please read before getting personal, I won’t bother responding to you anymore, another little kid, p.s, we asked for the Forecast Int link, I reposted your link here because it is more relevent to this thread, maybe the shower advice should be reversed?

Aries has provided this link in the Pak getting old Mirages thread

Pakistan Airforces’ Gripen Fantasy
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEL20040616145407&Page=L&Title=B+R+E+A+K+I+N+G++++N+E+W+S&Topic=0&

Now remember that “private TV channels” also reported that Pakistan was getting Quatar Mirages and belgian F-16s.