TE311 taken at Birmingham International 29 May 1984
Bought in for Static Display. The last time I remember seeing her complete.
Was this Trident also responsible for carrying out the first blind landing trials?
If so it surely adds to its historical significance. this aside she has been lavished a lot of TLC over the years.
This all begs the following questions:
1. BA still appear to have some capital available as they are reportedly supporting the preservation of the airframes moving up to East Fortune.
2. The BA website gives the outward impression that they are proud to have the collection under their (pardon the pun) wing.
The more I read the less sense it makes- or am I missing something?
Neil,
Check your pm’s
XM172
Neil,
Firstly well done for the efforts in helping to preserve a piece of our heritage up here in the North West.
Have you spoken to any of the lads at North West Heritage at Warton? they may be able to help or advise on short term storage.
Any news on the BA Vehicles? I assume they too will be moving on.
Couple of very rare buses which need to be re-homed and restored.
Some time back (when Cosford had a curator and some degree of autonomy from Hendon), they were asked if the wanted one of the AEW Nimrods. The answer was in the negative as the area it would have needed was allocated for the proposed Offices/shop/lecture rooms and parking area. The AEW was reffered to by a senoir member of the management team as nothing more than a ‘tin tube’!. A C-130 has been on the cards since the introduction of the 130K,
Given the lack of space ( even after the re-location of the BA fleet), its hard to see where they can add other aircraft and certainly where they could build another eyesore to house them.
IMHO the RAFM should have taken on Bitteswell when it was available and housed the entire reserve collection/conservation centre and storage facility on one airfield. The cost would admittingley been high but no more than the the total for the new building/eyesore at Cosford and far less than the fiasco at Greenwich.
This would have also given them the option to have an active airfield for future additions as well as central location for owners/collecters to maintain/display, rather like Duxford.
Pipe dreams or not it may have been the way forward. Now it seems the only way forward is to restructure the whole director/management team and effect a workable and focused policy. Not forgetting applying for lottery funding for a working heating system and lighting.
Just found the details on another thread Coastal Command 1941). Thanls Ashley.
Now where do I get to buy a copy?
All in colour and approx 9 minutes each.
Hopefully more will be issued from the Rank Archives.
I remember an Air Ministry film on Sunderlands some years ago (out on general release), anyone know if its still available?
Got this one a month ago. watched it about a dozen times so far. Truly amazing stuff.
Every enthusiast/historians must have.
Test Pilot 1961 Jimmy Dell with the Lightning
Thunder in waiting 1960 The V Bombers
Flight Deck 1960 Scimitars and Sea Vixens
The Black Arrows 1959 111 Sqn Hunters
Back Room of the sky 1963 A&AEE
Jumping Jets Tripartite testing on Kestrel & Harrier
The Skies the limit 1963 Aerobatics inc Redhills Tiger Club
Air Umbrella 1960 NATO aircraft
School for Skymen 1966 RAFC Cranwell.
Miles Messenger G-AKIM early 60’s at Wolverhampton, Totally hooked from that moment on. Have a photo (somewhere) of me posing by the nose of ‘India Mike’.Followed by a ‘chippie’ whilst in the ATC at Kidlington in I think 63/4. Overflew Little Rissington and back. Must have been some sight, little short a**se waddling across the apron with a parachute pack almost touching the floor !! Thankfully no photo of that.
‘Bostin’ pics
the Red Biplane is a Stearman 1B75A based at Stellenbosch
any more of the Javelin and Vampires?
Scanned this out of the 3rd edition. hope it helps.
I have managed to ‘aquire’ all the editions with the exception of 1&2, in fact No.3 was purchased at the VAC Daffodil rally at Turweston 2001 for the princely sum of 50p !! even includes a typed note from George Jones to Dick Scholefield thanking him for a photograph included in the edition.
From Wrecks and Relics 3rd Edition
SOUTHEND,
At Southend Airport No.1132Sqdn ATC have acquired the ex North Weald DH Vampire T.11 7728M/WZ458 ’31’.
Collected together here by the British Historic Aircraft Museum are the
following types, which are currently stored on the airfield.
Saab J.29F 29640 >20/08′ R.Sw.A.F.
Lincoln B.2 RF342 ex G;-APRJ
Argus I G-AJOZ Proctor 4 G-ANZJ
B.25 Mitchell N9089Z Camera-ship.
Proctor 4 NP339 ex G-AOBW
Sea Fury FB.II WJ288 ‘029’
Anson C.19 TX211/G-AVHU
Sea Fury FB.II WJ244 ‘026′
Magister P6411 ex G-AIDF wreck
Drover G-APXX ex VH-EAS
Sea Hawk FGA.6 XE489 ‘626’
The scrap area contains many bits and pieces including the whole fuselages of Bristol 170’s G-AMWC, G-AMWE, G-AMWD, G-AMSA 8c G-AOUU together with the ex-Pakistan A.F. B.170 G-ARSA/SMt-09.
The fuselage of Prentice G-AOKT lies nearby having been used for the air test and certification programme for the ALT conversion.
Anson G-ALIH has been withdrawn from use1 and is here also. T
he fire heap has Prentice G-AOKM and Anson I G-ALXC.
The Viking G-AIKH of Continental is present on the old fire heap.
The skeleton of the Scion G-AEZF is behind the SE corner of the Tradair hangar in the airfield’s North-West corner.
Stored in the ex-Tradair hangar are; Dakotas G-AGHK & G-ALXN, Rapides G-AEM5 & G-AKRN, Doves G-AJBI, G-ANVC & G-AOBZ, Autocrat G-AGTX and Tiger Moth G-ANNN, all dismantled and wingless.
The wreck of the Skyways 7^8 G-ARMV is here also.
Stored outside the hangar are Dakotas G-AHCU, G-AHCV, G-AJIB, G-AHNW & G-AMDZ together with Viking G-APOP.
Tried to import the file as an attachment, but didn’t want to play.
I wil be talking to ‘bods’ at Salmesbury tomorrow (21st) and will get an update then. She is in a sorry state and is a need of perhaps more than TLC.
91regal,
Boulton Paul aircraft since 1915. Alec Brew
ISBN: 0 85177 860 7
Probably the best book available on the aircraft of B&P.
Many years ago I was given the manuscript for a projected book by John Chambers (ex BP Drawing Office) which was incredibly detailed, sadly he died before he had the chance to take the manuscript further, but I feel the Alec Brew book is its equal. Highly recommended and well worth the £30.
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Originally Posted by Melvyn Hiscock
Doesn’t 002 actually belong to the Science Museum?
Certainly does Melvyn along with the BAC221 and HP115 which are also in the hangar, but its many years since anyone from the Science Museum have been anywhere near it Quote
I thought the HP115 was on loan from the RAF Museum. Seem to remember it them in the top hangars at Cosford along with Supermarine 517 (VV106) and Hawker P1052 (VX272), both of which are also with the FAA Museum
Cant get the hang of posting quotes – help!!