Otherwise known as form drag. While thrust may also decrease … due to the sudden changes in the fluid and thermo – dyanmics of the intake.
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HollyMolly

Yeah, but speed is still a critical factor in a dogfight. I think that’s what he was getting at by saying your remark was misinformed. He who bleeds speed off the fastest will probably get obliterated.

Yes – thats basically it. Absolutes are irrelavent – but the aircrafts ability to gain and maintain speed in certain situations can be more essential than the jets turn radius. Obviviously with HOBS missiles and HMD – that becomes even more important – espcially the Asraam concept – using the missile in a semi BVR role/coupled with optical tracking at the edge of its envelope while you stay fast and turn – not giving the opposition a chance to engage you with their heaters. The platform helps obviously – perhaps one reason why the tiffy is slaying pretty much everyth?ng it comes up against.
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Voyeur dorm

I agree the SH is great overall performer – but if you were at Farnborough/RIAT this year surely you noticed the Eurofighter had a steeper climb prof?le.
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SHIP SALE

It is much more difficult to shot down MiG-25 at high speed and altitudes, because of its relatively high maneuverability.
As a streight line a/c, the SR-71 is too predictable and have to rely on mission planning to avoid SAM sites.

Changing your tune? I thought no missile could catch it? 🙂 – As soon as a Mıg-25 engages in a ‘high’ G turn at high Mach it is going to bleed velocity/altitude in short order. It wont be able to sustain ‘high’ G high Mach turns as well as 4.5 – 5th gen ac types. With such a cr&p T-D*W ratio – in certain situations ‘cranking’ might not be the best option – but rather do what the blackbird does – aka fly straight.

Firebar do you have to present each bit of data in a seperate post?

Fedaykin – cheers for the link.

I agree the show ?s unrealistic – period.

But TV nozzles in certain (and in most cases limited) flight regimes do effect turn rates – period.

Increasing AoA – can increase the effect the wing has on actually turning the jet – especially in slow speed turns where the onset of vortex/lift induced drag is less pronounced. But for most turning profiles ?t ?s limited – useless.
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LovelyWendie99

d) Standard SM-2ER Block IV
Range: 240km, Alt: 33km, Agility: ?, Guidance: Semi-Active

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2200&tid=1200&ct=2

That actually has a range of 230 miles = 368 Km – the missile is in the same class of the S-400 family of missiles and out ranges any aster variant by a fair margin. It also formed the basis of the RIM-161 SM-3 which reportedly has a range of over 500 Km.
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Lamborghini Countach History

Patriots will give any Russian AC a torrid time.