Sorry pleuris for ruining your thread,but the thought of hordes of Il-2 and Me-109 clashing,or the land F-22:Stallone is just hilarious.
Now seriously.
In recent exercises VVS and PVO units from Ural district,successfully intercepted targets that according to Russians have the same RCS as F-117 or B-2.The target was modified S-125 rocket(“??????” or Pishtial(?)
The chied-engineer of the missile claim that the RCS is around 0,3 m2.The missile can be launched to 40-50 km in altitude and 85-90 in distance.Maximum flight time is 200 s.
Drones were engaged with Buk and S-300(unknown version).
I know that F-22 have RCS of 0,001,nevermind of the aspect,but i hope this is interesting to somebody.
Let me get this straight.
Pesho the claim here is that an S-300(unknown version) can engage flying objects of RCS of .3m2 at a distance of 85-90 km and up to an altitude of 40-50 km?
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The RAF pilots always had excelent aircraft, i mean the Harrier armed with AIM-120 and ASRAAM are excellent aircraft, the Tornado the same, the Sepecat Jaguar are other excellent aircraft, the Eurofighter i think like the Rafale will prove to be better than expected, i do not think the F-22 will become the king of fighters, the americans are over relying in stealth.
for example this
versus this
every body automatically thinks the F-22 will beat it, yeah but in reality i do not think there is enough knowledge by either side of the capabilities that both machines have in radars and ECM systems, i mean here we are just speculating based upon the idea the Su-34 must be the losser, but i doubt it, i feel both sides are working hard to outfight each other and only in war we can more or less see the results
Same the Europeans i do not think they are not thinking that this fighter
might not face this one
I am sure they are thinking how to beat the F-22 and how to detect it
I disagree. I believe the Raptor will have a significant edge over any Flanker derivative(BVR), I believe that the Eurocanards(with the exception of Gripen) would pose a significant edge over any Flanker derivative(BVR). I believe the Typhoon would pose a greater threat to the Raptor but the Raptor still retains in my opinion a noticable advantage in BVR, one I believe it will retain throughout its lifetime. I believe that the Raptor and Typhoon are both high performance fast jets, with similar flight performance;from what Ive heard on this side of the pond: the Raptor enjoys a slight advantage in the overall flight performance.
I also dont believe the dismissive attitude towards stealth on this side of the pond; that it suddenly looses its advantage with the employment of enemy awacs or if your wingman is flying at an angle off the nose of the Raptor, where perhaps its RCS is not as low as its frontal sector RCS. This for me is justified by the sensitivity of the issue, not even people like Jon Lake would be privy to that kind of information. But from reports from people like Dozer and so on, how the Raptor easily takes on 4->8 fast jets, accompanied by awacs without them seeing the Raptor. This makes me think that this dismissive nature towards stealth(on this side of the pond) is borne out of the fact that we cannot really afford it, therefore we have come up with more cost-effective ways in negating the Flanker threat. Only the yanks can afford their passive stealth(ie shaping and ram). Now, sure radars will advance as time goes by, eventually eating away at the significant stealth advantage that the Raptor enjoys and the advantage that makes it virtually unbeatable in BVR at this moment in time. But that eventually could take along time; a few decades perhaps, who knows, as its all relative to the Raptors level of RCS reduction which is classified. The reason I believe it will take along time to loose its advantage, is due to the confidence of the people who have designed, who have manufactured, who have bought and those that have used the aircraft.
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