Oh, something else, I don’t understand why EU citizens continue to support the C-17 . Not only are there reports suggesting that this thing is a piece of sh’t (not even able to compete with ancient galaxys) but also because of the way in which the US tanker deal got cancelled (for the simple fact that boeing lost against an EU plane)
Are you refering to the Buddha?
Even MAC can’t stand it.
To do the work of one C-5A with a tanker , you need 2 C-17s and 2 tankers.
I don’t understand why people like that plane.
It is over expensive, and over stated.
MRAP’s are moved not using the C-17s, but the poor C-5s, leased An-124 and naval shipping.
C-17 was supposed to be the job of both C-130s and C-5, and actually doesn’t do any.
And the congress keeps pushing more to the USAF to please Boeing.
LOL, you make your own subject to prove you have the truth!
You should lock it also. Will give you the last word.
Well, industrials are not living by the words of 12 years old on forums, fortunatly.
Thanks for any clarification.
It truly is a bit confusing
Rick, it is a loong and complicate story.
In 1879 : Elihu Thomson et Edwin Houston create a company named Thomson-Houston Electric Company.
After years of merging and other name (and country) changings, in 1987, Thomson-CSF sold its telephony and medical branch to Alcatel and GE, its semi-conductor branch to the italian IRI-Finmeccanica.
In 2000, all the companies of the Thomson-CSF group are merge into Thales S.A.
The multimedia branch is merged into Thomson S.A.
Thales NL is mainly former Signaal.
Thales UK is mainly Redifon MEL and Marconi Defence.
Subdivision looks like this (althought this comes from an outdated wiki-):
Thales Air Traffic Management
Thales Air Defence
Thales Communications
Thales Electron Devices
Thales Engineering & Consulting
Thales e-Transactions
Thales Freight and Logistics
Thales Industrial Services
Thales Services
Thales ISR
Thales Microwave
Thales Navigation
Thales Optronique
Thales Propriete intellectuelle
Thales Research and Technology
Thales Services industrie
Thales Security Systems
Thales Systemes aeroportes
Thales Technologies et services
Thales Underwater Systems
Thales is Thales. No real separation by country, if it is, only regarding export licences. And the group tends at having the others companies of the group to work together (sinergies) on global contracts.
Should not put a country name behind Thales.
Yes, but war is war, and I agree, whoever do it, it is horrible.
And americans are not different then others.
Now, my country is not the subject of this discussion.
Now, because others made atrocities, that is a permission to do same or worse, and then to point the fingers to others?
Nice way of thinking you are having.
USofA has commited as much warcrimes and atrocities in and out its frontiers then any other 2 or 10 thousend year country (maybe exept China).
Just the lap time is shorter!
I am not anti-american, as you tend to suppose it here, but I am against double measures as too often done.
Not being american, but having studying it, I can speak with distance.
For you, Pearl Harbor is an atrocity and Iraqi Freedom is an heroic act.
For me, it is exactly the opposite.
By opposition to you americans, I am not denying anything.
And I am not Japanese for the matter.
Try this [educator mode]:
http://www.islamawareness.net/WarCrimes/American/
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff66.html
http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-1/530/530_08_Dresden.shtml
http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwch1.htm
http://www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html
http://www.occidentalism.org/?p=415
http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/s9/index.php?/categories/11-American-War-Crimes
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedback/14-05-2004/5575-lynndieengland-0
Have fun reading that.
So if you kill one american, you are a deadly montrous inhuman kind, but if you kill millions of indians, or iraqi, or Ughurs or whatever, you are a good guy.
Very short eyesight.
Japanese did horrible things, Chinese and koreans were far worse, bascalliy, but americans are not to be proud either.
Selective memory now, uh?
Only three civilian killed.
Have to say it was a master play from the Japanese side.
Talk about chirurgical strikes… 60 years before the time!
We have to understand that Kockums were not that happy with the Australian deal.
Plus they were closed to bankrupt then.
Australian Defence Industries is pretty well situated in the mil-dev industry.
Otherwise, they would not have changed owner lately for who you know 😉
Wich other nations has better littorial SSK:s then Sweden, plz tell me. And why could not they(US) not ask for help with one their big ally?
hmmmm let me try… the Germans?
And since they absorbed Kockums, there is no more swedish submarine industry. :diablo:
The new design H19SS dubbed Oyashio-II is designed around a swedish AIP locally built.
zajcev , the portugese deal was a 214 renamed 209PN before the contract was signed.
One legal issue IIRC.
I thought they used the RTM engines already developped with high spec (read DO-RTCA) salt spray requirement for the NH/EH?
No, it is a bit more then ONE hour per 24 hours.
Well thats a matter of debate. If Japanese fishing vessels are whaling in Australian Antartic waters and hosing green activists off with water cannons and if a Japanese naval vessel just happens to be nearby its just coincidence. Green peace didn’t think so, when they were ramming fishing boats, they got scared off and called for an Australian Navy ship to increase the pressure.
Well, Green **** would deserve that, but again, no, JMSDF has a commitment to stay within 1000 NM of Mainland Japan (read Honshu), except unusual efforts (read war on terror/Enduring Freedom).
I beg you to prove me the opposite.
That Australia isn’t that far behind Japan in capability. While japan has a great number of older cold war era ships, such as
Listen now. I don’t think you have any knowledge of industrial and intellectual work either in Japan or in Australia.
Japan is self reliant for its design of any kind of ship since before WWII (think since Holland-mod, in 1911). They have since a continuous and ininterrupted design on the board up to now – meaning for nearly 100 years.
They need no help for anyone.
Same thing for their flotting ships.
Now, Australia has never been designing its own subs ever. The have always bought a design abroad. Always.
Now, that Kockums had a bad time then and couldn’t built correctly the bow of the fisrt boat, and that Australian governement decided to give it a go via local industry and that worked is just proving that they are top notch for such (and more) implementation/realisation.
Now, the day the put a boat from spec to commissioning without third party involvement, we will say THEN they are on par with Japanese sub industry.
But I don’t think that is the purpose of the Australian government, as it is an expertise very demanding to access, and even more to keep.