Lost Aviation and Historical Sites

I also note one of the runways at Wellesbourne Airfield has been partially built over with industrial units, since I left the village in 1993.

Yes I accept it is difficult to save buildings of historical interest in your locality and I also note that it is impossible to get many listed. Even though some, like those at West Raynham were proposed to be listed, I understand that the listing of the airfield buildings was blocked by the landowner.

Sadly it seems that many historic buildings of all types will end up like they have in many towns, built over by 20th century and now future 21st century developments.

But we need to keep fighting and hopefully more buildings will be saved, than if we did nothing at all. You will fight for some and lose (I know the feeling only too well), but you will also get some triumphs hopefully too.

At the end of the day it is down to big money and unfortunately most property developers are either awash with money, or can obtain it at banks.

Mark

The more buildings listed the better

Regarding Buildings, the more buildings listed the better.

Regarding getting any Buildings listed, it is worth bearing in mind that listing with English Heritage should afford more protection than the Local Authorities ‘Local List’.

I believe a Local Authority was known to remove a building on their ‘Local List’, so English Heritage (national listing) I believe is better and you have the right of a written Appeal to the Secretary of State for Culture Media and Sport if refused or removed from listing (delisted), which is quite easy to do.

I hope the hangers you mention are listed with English Heritage!

Mark

Thanks for the BBC link.

I note the BBC website say’s £235,000 for the sale.

Spink said yesterday that the medals of Norman Cyril Jackson in Lot 1 realised £200,000. (BBC price must be inclusive of VAT, see Spink terms below)

The link to Spink I originally posted no longer takes you to the description.

I have found this link to Spink which confirms the price as £200,000, but say’s that the prices are exclusive of VAT and Buyers Premium.

Quote from Spink Website
“Sales Results
Results for Sale 4004, Orders, Decorations, Campaign Medals & Militaria.
Generated at 9:00:18 AM on the Saturday, May 01, 2004, Prices are exclusive of Buyer’s Premium and VAT and may be subject to change. Prices shown in British Pounds
Sale Total: 500,195 British Pounds”

“Lot Description Price Result
1 The Second War Bomber Command Victoria Cross Group of Eight to Warrant Officer N.C Jackson, RAF £200,000 Sold”

Quote: Copyright Spink 2004

http://www.spink.com/asp/results.asp

Any problems go to Spink Homepage then;
Click on ‘Auctions’
click ‘Catalogue Archive’
click on ‘View’ (adjacent 30th April 2004 sale 4004)
click on medal ‘picture’ for description and history of Sgt (later W/O) Jackson

Mark

Bit more information about the lost crew

Captain was F/O Frederick Manuel Mifflin D.F.C.
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/certificate.aspx?casualty=2102475

Rear Gunner was F/Sgt Norman Hugh Johnson
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/certificate.aspx?casualty=2102050

Mark

Sgt Norman Jackson in the London Gazette 23rd Oct 1945

Apparently, the Captain and R/Gunner were still unaccounted for in October 1945.

Go to the following for the original account in the London Gazette of 23rd October 1945. (Wait about a minute for the scanned page of the newspaper to download in pdf format.) You can save the page to your computer or print it off providing you have Adobe Reader or can get the software off the Adobe site.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveViewFrameSetup.asp?webType=0&PageDuplicate=n&issueNumber=37324&pageNumber=0&SearchFor=Jackson&selMedalType=&selHonourType=

Any difficulties go to:

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk

go to Search Archive and 2nd W/War

and enter
Jackson (in the name box)
2nd W/War (in the War box)
Choose ‘V.C.’ (in medal type/award)

choose in pdf format
Gazette Edition, Issue 37324 23-October-1945

and the front page should appear with a full account.

Mark

Chris

Yes, after reading it again, they are saying he did not achieve much.

But its still an unbelieveable account of heroism.

I suppose he was attempting to put the fire out, because if he could extinguish the fire, they would likely have all got home rather than be p.o.w.

He was lucky to survive when he fell away and his parachute failed to open fully.

However, his thought was in the right place, that is what counts and his V.C. was well deserved.

Thank you for your comments.

Mark

Sgt Norman Jackson Photograph

Sgt Norman Jackson

Whitley N1521

Thanks for that information about Whitley N1521 at

http://www.a1.nl/nfla/N1521.html

http://www.arg1940-1945.nl/pages/inhoudsopgave-uk.htm
Click for Recovery Page, then click on ‘A.W. Whitley’. Next click on ‘2e EXPEDITIE’ and ‘4e EXPEDITIE’ for photographs. Found It!!

Its strange to think that my grandfather flew in that aircraft during July 1940. Its been underwater, recovered and now its in a museum.

Did you recover all of the Whitley and engines?

There is a project to rebuild a Whitley in the UK and he is always on the lookout for Whitley parts.

Best wishes

Mark (Observer)