With a known felon in SE England targetting WW2 aviation artefacts then the more secret the location the better….!
…and prey tell who this felon is my good fellow :diablo: I’ve probably got more chance of finding him that locating this He162 🙂
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Peter D Evans
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Many thanks for the feedback gents, very much appreciated… 🙂
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Thanks for the prompt feedback Daz… I don’t get any of the specialist UK aviation literature so wasn’t aware that she may already be here. Any pointers to her current location (possibly Historic Aircraft @ Duxford?) would be very much appreciated 🙂
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Thanks for the information chaps… very much appreciated 🙂
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Peter D Evans
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Thanks for the details concerning the OFMC… glad to hear that they are still up and running… 🙂
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Off the top of my head, two bus routes serve the Croydon Airport Visitor Centre, these being routes 289 operated by Arriva London and 119 operated by Metrobus. As correctly pointed out by Tuck1940, the nearest railway station is Waddon from where a short walk to the Purley Way will enable you to link up the a southbound 289… Route 119 can be picked up from East Croydon train station as there is a bus terminus right outside the station. The 119 terminates at Croydon Airport itself. The 289 can be picked up from either Purley station or near to West Croydon station… It would be handy to know from where you would be traveling as this would enable me to suggest the best method of getting there…
Hope this helps,
Thanks for the head-up Tenthije…. I would most certainly hvae missed it!…. and what an interesting programme – but buggered if I’d have sat in the replica for its maiden flight! 🙂 For me it’s why the term “seat of the pants” was invented…
German occupied Czechoslovakia produced major components for the Me262 programme, with Avia producing at the forefront of this dispersed production. At the wars end, Czechoslovakia held considerable numbers of unused airframes, engines and spares and it was decided that these would become part of the new Czech AF. The Letecke factory at Malesice began work on the Czech version of the Junkers jumo 004B-1, designated the M-04, whilst the Avia plant resumed its work on the Me262 by working on 18 suitable wartime airframes. The first complete aircraft was designated S-92.1, similar to the Me262A-1a. Three two-seat versions, desigated the CS-92 were also built.
The first S-92.1 flew on 27th August 1946, the second S-92.2 took to the air on 24th September 1946 and by the end of the year S-92.3 had been completed. A fourth S-92.4 was the only airframe to be tested in 1947 but it became the first of the new Czech jet fighters to be taken on strength by the Czech AF. The first two-seat CS-92.7 followed in 1948 and at this time there were plans to modify and improve the Me262 design. This included the use of BMW 003 engines and a redesign of the nose-wheel undercarriage.
Despite the close links between Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union it would not be until the 1950’s that MiG-15’s were to be produced in Czech factories. By this time, the Czech AF had five S-92’s and three CS-92’s serving with the 5th Fighter Flight. Six of these were flown at a public military review at Letna on 9th May 1951…
Two examples survive today, a single S-92 and a CS-92 which can be found at the Vojenske Muzeum, Kbely AB, Czech Republic…
(sources: “Me262, Stormbird Rising” & “World War II Fighting Jets”)
Images and further discussion can be found here
This seems as good a place to start…
Taken from “Warbirds Worldwide” , Vol2, No3, circa Sept 88
Flyable Hispano Ha-112-M1L
serial / UK reg / film codes / location & status
C4K-31 – G-AWHE – Red 8 – Confederate AF, Harlington as N109ME
C4K-61 – G-AWHF – no markings – location/status unknown
C4K-75 – G-AWHG – Yellow 11 – sold to US 25/10/74, location/status unknown
C4K-99 – G-AWHM – Yellow 5 – Wilson Edwards, TX as N90604
C4K-100 – G-AWHJ – Red 13 – Kalamazoo Air Zoo, MIC as N76GE
C4K-102 – G-AWHK – Red 7 – Harold Kindsvater, TX as N9938
C4K-105 – G-AWHH – Red 4 – Wilson Edwards, TX as N6036
C4K-106 – G-AWHI – Yellow 8 – Wilson Edwards, TX as N90607
C4K-112 two seater – G-AWHC – Red 11 – Wilson Edwards, TX as N1109G
C4K-122 – G-AWHL – Yellow 7 & MI+T as Hurricane – Champlin Fighter Museum, as N109J
C4K-126 – G-AWHD – Red 9 – Wilson Edwards, TX as N90603
C4K-127 – G-AWHO – MI-S as Hurricane – EAA Msueum, Oshkosh as N109BF
C4K-130 – G-AWHN – Black Chevron marks – Wilson Edwards, TX as N90602
C4K-144 – G-AWHP – Red 3 – CAF, Harlington, destroyed in fatal crash 19/12/87, was N8575
C4K-152 – G-AWHR – White 5 – Wilson Edwards, TX as N4109G
C4K-169 – G-AWHT – Red 5 – CAF, Lancaster Airport TX, as N9939
C4K-170 – G-AWHS – Yellow Chevron marks – Auto & Tecknic Museum, Germany
Taxying Buchons
serial / film codes / location & status
C4K-107 – unknown – now G-BOML
C4K-121 – unknown – Don Knapp, Fort Lauderdale, USA
C4K-131 – unknown – location unknown
C4K-134 – unknown – West German Air Force, JG71, Wittmundhafen
C4K-135 – unknown – converted with DB to Bf109G as D-FMBB
C4K-172 – unknown – Charles Church, UK as G-HUNN
Static Buchons
all four static Buchons came to the UK during filming and were used for spares and cockpit shots etc.
serial / notes / location & status
C4K-30 – Henlow for spares – location unknown
C4K-111 – Pinewood Studio for cockpit shots – location unknown
C4K-114 – Henlow for spares – national Aviation Museum, Ottawa, Canada
C4K-154 – Henlow for spares – location unknown
CASA 2111’s used as Heinkels in the UK
serial / UK reg / film codes / location & status
B2-137 – G-AWHB – 6J+PR, U6+DL, VI+BN & A5+ER – Kermit Weeks
B2-166 – G-AWHA – 6J+BR, 6J+PR, VI+CL & A5+BN – Deutsches Museum, Germany
Daz… watch the sequence when the German generals are reviewing the various He111 units during the first part of the film… I’m sure that bogus unit codes are visable at various points especially when entering the airfields through lifted barriers… I’m also 100% sure that a fighter JG code is visable during one of the “in France” ground scenes…
Top pictures Daz and Mark, thanks for posting them!
Geoff… I haven’t got the film, but whilst watching it recently I’m sure that “bogus” Luftwaffe unit codes were visable at various stages of the openning inspection sequences on buildings and gates. Maybe somebody who as the film can comment more…
As regards photographs of the finished restoration, I do hope your right David. In fact, I’ll drop Mark Sheppard (author of the Warbirds Worldwide articles) a line and see what he knows…
My memory regarding Doug Arnold plans are not as good as they used to be, but wasn’t his plan to build and open a hanger for the public to visit at Biggin Hill? From what I can gather Paul Allen plans for his collection are for it to remain private – and I agree with you, despite him being able to do whatever he likes with his money, doesn’t this seems a bit strange?
Thanks for the comments Ant… I’d be surprised if the A-5 restoration has been completed, the images I’ve seen of her at Flying A Services in Warbirds Worldwide circa 1997 tell me that a fair amount of work needed doing… I for one would be gutted if restoration was completed and she was shipped to the US without any images being made available.
As for the comparison between Paul Allen’s collection and Doug Arnolds “Warbirds of GB”… when Doug was alive, he was always more than happy to show me and a mate around… I just wish I’d had a camera with me…
“Battle of Britain” Luftwaffe
Hi all…
Warbirds Worldwide magazine carried an excellent three part article (issues 5, 6 & 7 dated 1988) on the making of the film and the aircraft used. All codes and emblems (both for the RAF and Luftwaffe) were made up so as not to aportion glory or blame to any particular unit/squadron…
Hope that helps…