Gemini G-AJOJ was trucked to Ford, Sussex from Shoreham soon after it was permanantly withdrawn from use at the latter in September 1968. It was used in the restoration to flying condition of G-AKKB and then burnt on site during 1970 along with various other bits of Gemini/Aries. I liberated the manufacturer’s plate from one of its Blackburn Cirrus Minor engines and I have it in front of me as I type.
On checking, no, it didn’t. Oops! 😮 Think I got caught out on that before, as the Cat’s wing is relatively high-aspect ratio and thick; but neither specifically Davis type nor very similar. Apologies for the error, and thanks for the spot, Pagen.
James – I’m not sure that I would go as far as to say that the Catalina’s wing was even ‘relatively’ high-aspect ratio. In answer to the question you asked about other types using the retractable wing-tip float mechanism, Consolidated also used it on the Model 29 PB2Y Coronado. Sometimes when we show people around our Duxford-based Catalina we point out the way that the floats operate and tell them that it is one of the few aircraft designed to reduce its wingspan in flight.
There are details in Miles Aircraft since 1925 by Don L Brown and in Air Britain Digest May 1959. If you PM me with your contact details I’ll send you copies.
I think the rear fuselage on those airframes is too slender for a Catalina hull which is much broader when viewed from above.
It brings back memories of cleaning the Student when I was an apprentice to see it in such good nick after its mishap. Now that the rebuild is at an advanced stage I able to able to include a photo of it in its present state in my dissertation on the careers of the apprentices and the products of the Miles Group of Companies from Shoreham Airport to Riverbank works, Lancing and Ford
I was a very frequent Miles visitor when they were at Ford in the late-60s. If you want to contact me, feel free to do so at [email]pby5@btinternet.com[/email]
Interesting reference to the Centurion in the cutting above. Don L Brown in his Putnam book Miles Aircraft since 1925 refers to it as the Century Project. Whatever it was, a full size wooden mock up was built consisting of the forward fuselage only ending, if my memory serves, at a point level with the engine exhaust outlets. I’m not sure where it was built but by the start of 1968, and probably before that, it was stored at the back of the Miles Aviation & Research (R&D) Ltd hangar at Ford in Sussex. It was in the same blue and white colours as used on the Student in the 1960s. It could be accessed from a door in the rear and I recall that the cockpit instruments were peeling black and white photographic reproductions stuck onto the dummy instrument panel and that the rudder pedals were rather vintage items with ‘Miles’ on the foot plates, quite possibly taken from a Gemini or similar!
At this time, the Student was stored in a large wooden packing case in the same hangar. The Century/Centurion mock-up was burnt before Miles moved out of Ford and to the old BEAGLE production hangar at Shoreham but the Student went on to fly again as related earlier in this topic.
Air-Britain’s British Civil Aircraft Registers1919 to 1999, often known as The Big Book states the following….
G-AFYO (1) – Douglas DC-5-5: c/n 430 Reservation dated 30/8/1939. Not taken up – cancelled order and transferred to KLM as PH-AXG but delivered to KNILM as PK-ADA in 1940 as DC-5-511. Reservation cancelled 14/9/1939
G-AFYO (2) – Bristol 130 Bombay: Reservation 1939. Cancelled
G-AFYO (3) – Consolidated Vultee CV.32 (B-24D-70-CO) Liberator: ex-42-40551 Registered 3/1944 (Marks used for one flight only). To NC18649 3/1944. Cancelled
G-AFYO (4) – Stinson HW-75 Model 105 Voyager ex-F-BGQP/NC22586 (probably also ex-French Mil with identity “22586”. Registered 25/4/1977
Very nice shots Elliott. I was fortunate enough to be aboard for the Saturday flights (yours were taken on Sunday judging by the take off direction) and you missed a number of practice displays as various pilots had their authorisation renewed. Glad you like the colour scheme Stangman – it was originally my idea and was chosen not only because it looks pretty good but because the original 44-33915 was based in the UK (Halesworth) and its loss is commemorated on the glass panels at the entrance to the AAF Museum our Duxford base.
Great to see the picture of Sedburgh XN148 – I flew in that on a number of occasions out of Tangmere whilst an Air Cadet in the late ’60s. A nice memory to see the year out on. Thanks for posting it.
In my message two posts above, the dreaded typo gremlin crept in and the date should in fact be 2001 and not 2002. Thanks to Aad van der Voet for picking me up on that.
N423RS last flew on 10/11/2002 (see later message below) when it was delivered Duxford – Lee-on-the-Solent. The flight to North Weald from there also appears to have been her first post-restoration test flight.
I lived for all of my childhood and adolescence in Sandfield Avenue, Wick, Littlehampton and I was always told that these houses, built pre-war, were used to billet Canadian soldiers before they went to Europe – not sure if for the Dieppe raid or the D-day landings but I thought the former. We periodically had some troubles with the underground ‘plumbing’ in these houses and my father always maintained these were the result of the Canadians firing flares down the drains to clear a blockage. Apocryphal probably!
Boeing Aircraft of Canada Ltd built the following Catalinas and Cansos:
55 Canso As serials 9751 to 9805
75 PB2B-1s serials JX270 to JX344 to RAF as Catalina IVBs
125 PB2B-1s serials BuAer7292 to 73116 which went to RAF and RNZAF
40 PB2B-1s serials BuAer44188 to 44227 most of which went to the RAF, RNZAF and RAAF
67 PB2B-2s serials BuAer44228 to 44294 which many went to the RAF and RAAF
Total Catalina production = 362
Boeing also built the following at Sea Island, Vancouver:
4 Boeing C-204 flying boats
5 Boeing 40H-4 mailpane
1 Boeing Totem flying boat
17 Blackburn Shark
Avro Anson components
de Havilland Mosquito tailpanes
Boing B-29 bomb bay sections
Noorduyn Norseman wing spars
Fairey Battle spares
Rob – Flying Cats by the late Andrew Hendrie will fit the bill. Although Andrew did not fly them himself, the book is full of personal reminiscences from those who did. It covers other air arms as well as the RAF too. Other books to consider are Arctic Airmen by Ernest Schofield and Roy Conyers Nesbit and Wings of the Dawning by the late Arthur Banks.
Although not in book form, The Catalina News has over the years run a good number of articles that cover this subject matter – contact me off group if you want to know more.
Although the fire took place inside the dome, it did not destroy the dome itself which survived for much longer. In fact it is still extant.