cloud_9Edinburgh – Stansted – Edinburgh [Titan G-ZAPV]
Bournemouth – East Midlands – Bournemouth [Titan G-ZAPW]
Stansted – Belfast Int’l – Stansted – Belfast Int’l – Stansted [Titan G-ZAPM]
Stansted – Exeter – Stansted [Titan 146]
Edinburgh – East Midlands – Edinburgh (Sundays only) [Titan G-ZAPV]
Bristol – Edinburgh/Edinburgh – Bristol [2x Titan 146]There are more though
Scott
Yeah, Titan do alot work for RM…see below!
cloud_9So…can someone help me, by explaining this…
How is it that Ryannair can afford to charge 1p for seats…? I know that not all the seats are offered for this price, but how do they make up for the shortfall…?
Surley that is a change to the LCC revolution – being able to offer seats for 1p, how many other LCC’s offer that…?
MOL is a good business man, but just not a great person because he has basically copied everyone else, but just tweaked the LC business model so that it looks like he has brought something different to the table when in fact he hasn’t…but passengers obviously don’t mind as they still choose to fly with ’em… I think MOL is more niaive than anything because he said in one book I read about LCC: “How many LCC will there be left in the UK? Two – easyJet and Ryannair!”
cloud_9More pictures…
Here are some more pictures of the A380…
First is when it came onto stand at Changi
Second one when is at Frankfurt when it began its world tour!
I think the second one shows just how the airports, such as LHR, are going to have to change the gate areas before it comes into service…
cloud_9What’s the weather like? Could be something to do with that – not sure?
Sorry can’t be much help, but I would also be interested in knoiwing what it means…can anyone else shed some light on this?
cloud_9Sorry!
Apologies…I thought this was recent news…it appears to be from 11th Nov, I was in Orlando at the time this was published, so didn’t find out about it until now!
Still, the image is impressive…isn’t it?
cloud_9Airbus took advantage of the misty conditions today at Manchester And tested the A380’s autoland system. Hear are a few pictures of it.
Rgds Cking
WELL DONE – LMAO! 😀 😀 😀
You almost had me convinced…it was just lucky that I did not go to MAN to try see it…lol.
cloud_9Whose complaining ? I think we’re here to eat humble pie for doubting Martin what’s his name.
Though he still has to prove us wrong by flying the first operational flight on November 21st. But as things go today, good luck to the youngman.
Oh and to meet his expectations of carrying 75,000 passengers in his first year, his two aircraft will have to do 6 fully loaded flights a day for 365 days a year. I fear this maybe a bit of an optimistic target.
I am glad you are all eating humble pie, shows just how you can be so wrong and how little faith you have in people with ambtion!
CONGRATS TO MARTIN – well done mate…I will look forward to flying with you soon, however, I do agree with EN830 about his passenger figure estimates – the do seem to be a bit high for a brand new start-up!
cloud_9Wow…….. I think they mean more along the line of a proper calendar with proper photography.
Thanks for all your comments…
I was basically thinking that people would submit images, and I could then produce a calender of them…? Obviously those that had images produced in the calender would be entitled to a ‘free’ copy of it…!
However, I made an enquiry at a photo shop earlier today, and they wanted to charge me £25 per calender produced, which I am sure no-one is prepared to pay, so forget the idea for now, may well do one for 2007!
cloud_9Damn, that is close!
Where was it taken…? I think I will have to pay a visit just to see what it is like…nothing beats a 747-400 from going over or by you at close distance…, well that is until the A380 comes into service!
cloud_9JC is a fan of everything motorised going faster then 40mph. You should see him speak about COncorde or the Blackbird, he’s drooling like a baby.
JC is the man when it comes to cars, and also avaition…
Have any of you read his book “The World According To Clarkson”…? It is basically some of his best articles he wrote for his column in the Sunday Times. If not, I recommend it to you…especially the article about flying First Class (very funny!); and also the one about the Eurofighter (for you military minded people!)
He recently wrote an article comparing BA and Virgin, which someone posted on here a while back – that was very funny as well!
cloud_9I hope you find them interesting…
These are really good…I particularily like the Southwest one with both liveries…just shows the changes really well…
What was the Southwest one with the weird looking livery. I know they paint some of their aircraft with the state flag liveries, but don’t recognise that one!
cloud_9If you zoom in on the fourth pic from the top, the close up of the BA, I’m sure the captain is doing something unpleasant with his finger 😮
Very nice photos indeed. I am an ameteur photographer as well, have you seen my photos from my trip to Orlando, if not do so!
Not sure he is sticking his finger at you, but he may just be pointing at you…, probably saying “god-damn spotters” to his co-pilot or sometin like that!
If you can really tell he is sitcking his finger up at you, why not write a complaint to BA and send the photo as well (keep a copy though!), see what happens! :dev2:
cloud_9The operators are going to make much more money selling hundreds or thousands of hours to large companies, and clearly not as much if they are only selling 25 hour slots. Whilst people are still buying the 25 hour slots it is in their interests to focus on getting the 100s or thousands of hours slots and that seems to be where their marketing is focusing. I guess in the next 5 to 10 years the targeting may move to the leisure market, and it certainly is going to with the impact of the VLJs within the same period.
Cool. Thanks for your help – much appreciated.
The reason I am asking about this topic is because I am entering a business idea compeition at my university and I am going to submit a fractional aircraft ownership company that will be open to both the business and lesiure markets as I think there is real potential. I would like to think I could focus on the lesiure market, but not too sure if there would be enough demand on its own due to LCC’s.
What do you think?
cloud_9Basically because it sells most to the business sector. There is however a significant take up from the leisure sector, but of course you cant advertise it in conventional ways. The marketing is nearly entirely word of mouth, usually spreading from a positive experience of the service through the busiess sector.
Why couldn’t you market it conventionally? (rhetoric question!)
Surely those people that have got a fractional ownership in a house (e.g summer property in Spain!) found out about a company that deals with such thing from books, exhibitions and the internet and have chosen the property of their choice to invest in, so why couldn’t you do the same with an aircraft?
cloud_9What is fractional ownership?
This is taken from the Cessna website (Citationshares), hope it helps:
UNDERSTANDING FRACTIONAL OWNERSHIP
A Plane, When and Where You Need It
With the purchase of a fractional share of an aircraft (as little as a one-sixteenth share, or 50 hours per year), you gain access to an entire fleet. You may even have simultaneous access to more than one aircraft–an impossibility if you own a whole aircraft.
Our program is simple. You purchase the fraction of ownership you need of a Citation CJ3, Citation XLS or Citation Sovereign. The model you purchase depends on how far, and with how many people, you travel. With your share, you receive asset ownership, and rights to a specified number of flight hours to use as you see fit.
Fractional ownership offers the same flexibility and privacy as having your own plane. The only passengers that are on the aircraft for your scheduled trip are designated by you. You are guaranteed availability (with 8-hours notice for trips within the 48 contiguous states and 24-hours notice for international trips) of your aircraft or a comparable or larger aircraft. You simply put in your request for an aircraft when you need to fly and the fractional program takes care of the rest.
Fractional ownership provides greater convenience if your trips originate from multiple destinations and eliminates the problem of grounded aircraft. And fractional ownership is a turnkey model, so you have no management concerns as a fractional owner.
Fractional ownership provides individuals and companies all the benefits of whole aircraft ownership at a fraction of the cost and without the management responsibilities. Unlike time-share, you are not restricted if another shareowner of your specific aircraft is using it. As an owner, you gain access to the entire program fleet, so that when your specific aircraft is unavailable you are provided with a comparable or larger aircraft.
Typically, the three cost components of fractional ownership include the upfront purchase price of the share, the monthly management fee and the flight hourly rate.
One-sixteenth share is the minimum share size, providing 50 annual occupied flight hours. At CitationShares, you can purchase shares in additional increments of 25 hours.
Flight hours include only occupied flight time. The flight time is calculated by the actual flight time plus six minutes for landing and six minutes for takeoff.
Management of your ownership interest by your fractional provider includes crew management and training, scheduling and dispatch, aircraft maintenance, insurance, ground support, standard catering and administration.
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