cloud_9Simple. Because until both the law and the attitude are changed…
Please explain to me what you would change about the law in this respect?
I hope to god you never get burgled cloud 9.I hope your house is so full of surveillance and anti theft devices that will stop a ram raider because with your outlook not only will the criminal take you and your family for everything you will stand by and watch them walk away from court with a slapped wrist.
Oddly enough trumper I have been burgled…and it happened within the last two years! Here’s my account of what happened:
I came home from work one-day and found the weelie-bin on its side, propped up against the kitchen window and the dining room window wide open as well.
Thinking this was a tad odd, considering that my now ex-girlfriend was at work at the time, I immediately assumed that someone had broken in. We didn’t have a burglur alarm at the time so no alarm had been raised.
I did a quick scout around, couldn’t see anyone inside or hear anything that suggested they were still in the property, however I still didn’t feel it was safe enough for me to enter on my own, so I got my mobile out and called 101. Admittedly I was on hold for a while as they tried to connect me to someone, so I hung up and dialled 999. Once through to them I explained that my house had been burgled and I tried to call the 101 number prior but couldn’t get through, they were understanding and said they would send someone round. About 20-25 minutes later two CID officers turned up. They came into the property with me, one checked the upstairs, the other went back outside to see if he could establish how the break-in happend. They also called for a Scenes of Crime officer to come have a look and dust for prints. Although they did a thorough dusting for prints, they could only find glove marks on the windows and the items within the property that they had touched.
All that was stolen was a rather cheap laptop and �300 in cash that was left on the bedside cabinet (we’d just sold some items to a friend the day before). They did try to take the XBox, but because it was wired into the TV and wall they must have given up on it and just left it dangling on the floor. Oddly enough they completley missed anything belonging to me, including my laptop and iPad.
Upon investigation, the officers concluded that we had left a small window open that could still be seen from the front even though it being behind a wooden gate/fence. I explained that we had a pet cat at the time and that was it’s entry/exit as we didn’t have a cat flap. They showed me that the wooden gate had been crowbared to gain access from the front of the property and hammer/screwdrivers had been used on the kitchen window in order to gain access to the property.
Overall they were very professional, compassionate and offered some good advice in order to help protect and secure the house to avoid it from happening again. We took them up on this advice and the very next day we called a locksmith who came around and repaired the kitchen window and he strengthend the wooden gate and put and additional lock and padlock on it as well as giving us even more advice about how to prevent a repeat.
For the next few days after, it was annoying to think that we had been broken into and that someone had been inside our house, looked through and taken some of our possessions, but at the end of the day…no ones life was endangered and we came out of the experience a lot wiser, and to me that was the most important thing.
cloud_9Typical sulky teeenager who will stick two fingers up to anything and anyone, which is fine.
If I were in charge of the school and she doesn’t want to be finger-printed I’d refuse to serve her food and tell her that she can make her own packed-lunch and bring it in herself – simples!
Hanging is a bit extreme though.
cloud_9Exactly trumper…only the Daily Mail brigade would like to make as much fuss about it and overdramatise everything just so that it gives them something to talk about.
cloud_9There’s probably more to this than meets the eye. How will having your fingerprints taken and then a daily scan of a thumb or finger print speed up a cafeteria queue? The meal still has to be served and, if I read the article correctly, paid for. Don’t see how adding an extra process will speed up the queue.
As far as I understand it, money is pre-loaded onto an online account by the parent/pupil and using a registered fingerprint deducts the cost of the meal off the account thus helping to speed up the queue because there is no phaffing around with money/change at the tills…just a simple scan of a finger and away you go!
I would suggest that this encourages healthy eating to a certain degree as I gather that parents can somehow look at a history of what the child has bought, plus it would probably reduce bullying/theft (of money!) to an extent too as pupils will not be carrying around cash on their person!
Most schools are introducing the new technology which is a good thing and it should be embraced. Those that do not want to participate is fine…I’m not saying it should be compulsory to have it done but if you want to be able to use the facilities that the school provides, you should be prepared to do what they want. If you don’t, then that’s fine also but you should be preapred to provide for yourselves in this particular instance.
So Cloud 9 you would be happy to be accosted at the doors of Tesco’s going for a coffee and your family and your children to be dragged off against their will to separate rooms to have blood samples, DNA samples, and fingerprints taken?
That’s not realistically going to happen though is it so stop being so sensationally dramatic.
cloud_9But (as we found out recently) the school is not allowed to refuse to serve food if the child is legally entitled to it – something to do with the duty of care they assume when accepting the child at the school, finger print or no finger print.
The cafe manager had made a decision that was not hers to make…
You can’t blame the cafe manager for defending a staff member when an allegation of abuse is made though. The reaction of the cafe manager was a mistake I grant you that; a quick but formal investigation by school staff would have given an accurate account by both sides involved and witnesses would have been allowed to make representations for both sides and an amicable agreement by both parties to have no further action taken would have been suffice in this instance.
That said, your story is somewhat different to the issue that was initially being discussed.
What would you do if the school your daughter attends decided to introduce electronic payment technology to bring about “cashless” transactions? As long as sufficient notice of their intention was provided in the form of an addressed letter to the parents by post that anyone who wants to use the system has to comply with the basic requirements and anyone who does not want to use the system will have to bring their own packed lunch in from an agreed date? That’s hardly unreasonable in my opinion and I am sure that the school are perfectly entitled to do this? You as a parent have a clear choice, either you continue to allow your daughter to eat by agreeing to the new system or you choose to provide her with a packed lunch?
cloud_9It would only serve the SE without some major infrastructure going in to get people there.
Don’t you agree though that it seems bizarre to want to spend many £bn’s on building a brand new airport when there is a perfectly good facility that already exists and could/should be developed; if it was given a chance to grow then it could at least go some way to alleviating the current capacity crisis that the UK is suffering from and at a significantly reduced amount?
KLM have announced their suspending their flights to AMS and that all customers who have got bookings on flights after April 10th are now being re-booked to fly from LHR…can you imagine having to drive all that way just to fly practically right over your house again in order to get to AMS…it’s madness?!
cloud_9Indeed it would be nice if they can work something out, but whoever takes it on is going to have an uphill struggle on their hands to convince airlines to come back?!
cloud_9http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/manston_airport_ryanair_and_ba_freight_blows_behind_closure_1_3457492
So according to the above news article, the blame for the possible closure is being put down to the failure of flights to emerge from Ryanair, which were scrapped as a result of their second profit warning, and also a proposed freight deal with British Airways that also went elsewhere.
Frankly, I think that this is all just smoke and mirrors and the owners are trying desperately to pass the blame on to someone else.
Firstly, we all know what Ryanair are like when they choose to establish routes out of underserved airports. They tell these airports that they are willing to operate flights but they want to be paid a hefty fee upfront because they simply say that if it wasn’t for their flights there wouldn’t be an increase in the number of passengers using the airport. I really don’t think that their second profit warning had anything to do with it…more likely that the new owners were not willing to bow to Ryanair’s demands.
As for the proposed BA World Cargo move to Manston from Stansted…wasn’t this dealt with back in 2009, or has there been talk of them looking to re-locate their flights to Manston for a second time? BA have in fact just recently announced that they are cancelling their flights out of Stansted (operated under contract by Global Supply Systems/Atlas Air) altogether in favour of making use of more of their passenger fleet based at LHR in order to transport their freight/cargo around the world, so again I don’t think that this has anything to do with it.
Ann Gloag, founder of the Stagecoach empire, is believed to have decided there was no chance of the company becoming profitable in the medium term.
This statement made me laugh to a certain degree. Surely if she is as successful in business as she has clearly become as a result of her other business ventures, you might have thought that her due dilligence would have allowed her to come to this decision before she actually chose to buy the place…?
I could see it taking several years before the airport could even think about becoming profitable…so it very much depends on what she sees as a “medium” term outlook. Personally I think anyone who chooses to buy an airport with just a “medium term” outlook really should re-consider doing so because it clearly shows that she didn’t really have as much desire as she initially claimed and it also gave false hope to the locals that support the airport and for those people who actually work there and now risk loosing their jobs.
It still stinks of it being a cheap pile of tricks in order to gain a substantial amount of land that can/will be sold off for development at a substantial profit to what she actually paid for it when she bought it last year!
Having said all that though, I guess that if she had not chosen to buy it and another buyer was not found soon then we would more than likely have been looking at a possible closure of the airport much earlier than now.
Really is a sorry state of affairs. 🙁
cloud_9Looking bad!! The closure of the airport is being discussed this morning. So much for the Gloags’ plans!! Wonder what will become of the two excellent small museums…:(.
Indeed, it has come as a huge shock to many, and apparently KLM have stopped taking bookings on their website from 8th April until such time as the future of the airport becomes clearer.
As many have suggested already on various social media sites, what would be the point of selling it on to developers…they’d only demolish all the current infrastructure and build a huge housing estate on the available land, which would provide short-term jobs during construction but then nothing at all after that other than more people living in an area that desperate needs investment and more jobs.
And the last time I checked the South-East of England was seeking additional aviation capacity…so why not spend some money developing Manston and improve the transport links to/from it in order to make it accessible to more people.
Not to mention the historical importance of the place too. I was only down there last week as I was meeting a friend for lunch and I visited one of the museums for the first-time and thought it was amazing.
It will be such a shame to see this place closed if that is what happens.
There is already a campaign that has reached 6,000+ signatures so far to try and save the airport from closure, below is a link:
cloud_9I have just read on Facebook, of all places ! That all relatives of the passengers who have tried calling the passengers mobile phones have got ringing tones ????? most bizarre ??
Keith :apologetic:
I saw this too Keith, albeit from a different source.
Thing is, with all the latest technology that is around is there no way that anyone could use the signal from these phones to pinpoint a possible location somehow, even if it were only to help by narrowing the size of the search area?
cloud_9Lovely collection of photos there Matt.
My favourites are the Thomson B757-200 and the “Flybe Dash 8… it’s behind youuu!”, well done and thanks for sharing.
Hope you and Rob are well? (Sorry, I’ve not been in touch much).
Must arrange a meet-up as I would love to come up to MAN sometime soon.
cloud_9But (as we found out recently) the school is not allowed to refuse to serve food if the child is legally entitled to it – something to do with the duty of care they assume when accepting the child at the school, finger print or no finger print.
The cafe manager had made a decision that was not hers to make…
You can’t blame the cafe manager for defending a staff member when an allegation of abuse is made though. The reaction of the cafe manager was a mistake I grant you that; a quick but formal investigation by school staff would have given an accurate account by both sides involved and witnesses would have been allowed to make representations for both sides and an amicable agreement by both parties to have no further action taken would have been suffice in this instance.
That said, your story is somewhat different to the issue that was initially being discussed.
What would you do if the school your daughter attends decided to introduce electronic payment technology to bring about “cashless” transactions? As long as sufficient notice of their intention was provided in the form of an addressed letter to the parents by post that anyone who wants to use the system has to comply with the basic requirements and anyone who does not want to use the system will have to bring their own packed lunch in from an agreed date? That’s hardly unreasonable in my opinion and I am sure that the school are perfectly entitled to do this? You as a parent have a clear choice, either you continue to allow your daughter to eat by agreeing to the new system or you choose to provide her with a packed lunch?
cloud_9Exactly trumper…only the Daily Mail brigade would like to make as much fuss about it and overdramatise everything just so that it gives them something to talk about.
cloud_9There’s probably more to this than meets the eye. How will having your fingerprints taken and then a daily scan of a thumb or finger print speed up a cafeteria queue? The meal still has to be served and, if I read the article correctly, paid for. Don’t see how adding an extra process will speed up the queue.
As far as I understand it, money is pre-loaded onto an online account by the parent/pupil and using a registered fingerprint deducts the cost of the meal off the account thus helping to speed up the queue because there is no phaffing around with money/change at the tills…just a simple scan of a finger and away you go!
I would suggest that this encourages healthy eating to a certain degree as I gather that parents can somehow look at a history of what the child has bought, plus it would probably reduce bullying/theft (of money!) to an extent too as pupils will not be carrying around cash on their person!
Most schools are introducing the new technology which is a good thing and it should be embraced. Those that do not want to participate is fine…I’m not saying it should be compulsory to have it done but if you want to be able to use the facilities that the school provides, you should be prepared to do what they want. If you don’t, then that’s fine also but you should be preapred to provide for yourselves in this particular instance.
So Cloud 9 you would be happy to be accosted at the doors of Tesco’s going for a coffee and your family and your children to be dragged off against their will to separate rooms to have blood samples, DNA samples, and fingerprints taken?
That’s not realistically going to happen though is it so stop being so sensationally dramatic.
cloud_9Typical sulky teeenager who will stick two fingers up to anything and anyone, which is fine.
If I were in charge of the school and she doesn’t want to be finger-printed I’d refuse to serve her food and tell her that she can make her own packed-lunch and bring it in herself – simples!
Hanging is a bit extreme though.
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