even the sr71 cant beat this

And even then, there are recorded phone calls between rebel leadership saying that they shot down something with a Buk. Then another call confirmed to the rebel leadership that it was a civilian airliner.
So the only plausible explanation is that the rebels shot down the plane, thinking it was military. Ukrainian SAM units don’t even enter into the discussion based on this.
are u dumb? the video with the recordings was encoded on youtube a day before everything happened, what rebels pre record their voices lol wao, i stated from the very begining that it is ukrains fault – now that the evidence is in just look at US media and british media how quiet they have become lol
finally the truth:
http://rt.com/news/174496-malaysia-crash-russia-questions/
ukraine – liars
usa- useing this to get putin out of office .. pathetic
the truth comes out eventuallly
p.s. very interesting article http://rt.com/op-edge/174088-was-it-putin-missile/
p.p.s
Ukraine has provided audio recording imaginary fighters of the South-East.
Down load recording, download MediaInfo, see when coded stream. This video was prepared the day before the tragedy!
Putin owns this crisis. ALOT of blood on his Facist hands.
lol i see nsa is here…
i do think its suspicious with all the constant blame of putin did this he did that – he dose not make all the decidions in russia and thats a fact, yet western media makes him out to be a monster lol please look at bush and how many ppl he killed in iraq
there are only two parties that might have done it (pulled the trigger) if the plane was shot down
A. the Ukranian army
B. the rebels
i will say A. is more accurate because : if this was indeed an accident they probably thought that the plane was dropping supplies to the rebels or something- and shot it down due to lack of experience or trigger happy feelings
BUT if it was not an accident- which now you can see the diversion of the planes route in to rebel territory and then “filming” the buk with 3 missiles and recording fake conversations..
the evidence ukraine presented is too perfect i do not see how people cant see through the veil – my conclusion this was planned probably cia+ukraine. It would make no sense what so ever for russia to shoot down a plane in ukranian airspace let alone over the rebel territory
The fog of war claims another victim.
I primarily feel for the families of those involved; and do have concerns about what this will do to the Ukraine conflict and to Malaysian Airlines.
Who is responsible? Take your pick.
– MA for flying through potentially dangerous airspace.
– Euro control for not closing that airspace.
– Ukraine ATC for not indicating to Euro control it needed closing.
– The Rebels for firing the missile.
– The Rebels for not knowing how to operate the system right and thus not identifying the airliner for what it is.
– The Russians for not training the rebels how to operate the system right.
– The Russians for not finding out they had such equipment and alerting Euro control.
– The Ukrainians for fighting the rebels (and using air power as part of that fight).
– The Ukrainians for using transport aircraft to perform reconnaissance.
– The rebels for… well…. rebelling.Does it matter who is responsible? Not really. The families won’t really give a f__k. All they really care about is their mum/dad/husband/wife/kids aren’t coming home again.
ultimate responsibility is with US & EU and israel that started this whole thing and f’d up ukraine

what if 5th gen?

Absolutly not. Russia does not have funding for such program in the first place.
They have shelfed such program along with several other.. Mig-35s. New interceptor, etc etc
where did you get that info from?
5th gen frog foot is it worth building one?

Hey congrats !!!! You even made it to the sina News-page: http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/k/slide_8_39920_29883.html#p=1
Only via BING-translator !
Deino
haha thats cool,ever since i made that desert camo pak fa and put syrian and iranian flags on it thanks to a Taiwanese newspaper publishing them as “real” i still get weird emails about the pic …
maybe i should “5 gen” another plane any ideas?

there have been rumors that some one want to start a competitor to virgin galactic (not the mig/su “edge to space flights”) but a more of a space tourism thing..
so i assumed for money wise – people would rather modernize an old plane rather then make one from scratch
the atlant carrier was the best option from my opinion – it still works and a research center owns it with a private entity

