well, nice to see that the state information warfare blitz is convincing it’s target audience. Those “average joe” comments, …y. It is frightening, there is no way that western governments can counter the a state controlled media/disinformation/propaganda machine. Kudos.

about propaganda:

Does russia do it- YES
Does america do it- YES

so why poeple have such different opinions (example: if you have a russian friend- then you already are “pro” russian…)

-When russia tells news- maybee CHINA repeats it

-When america tells news -ALBANIA, BELGIUM,BULGARIA,CANADA,CROATIA,CZECH REPUBLIC,DENMARK,ESTONIA,FRANCE,GERMANY,GREECE,HUNGARY ,ICELAND,ITALY ,LATVIA ,LITHUANIA ,LUXEMBOURG,NETHERLANDS, NORWAY,POLAND,PORTUGAL,ROMANIA,SLOVAKIA,SLOVENIA,SPAIN,TURKEY,UK repeat and agree with it and spread it on their news channels

thus more then 80% of the “news” and internet is saturated with people believing what they are being told, and if its not on their news but russia said it- it must be russian propaganda…

so my friend be more mindful and sift through the obvious BS either side is spewing and look at the facts like in this convoy attack… remember you are innocent until proven guilty.

AP interview with Assad regarding the bombing and convoy attack. Assad looks much skinner and older cant imagine the stress hes in… especially knowing what happened to Gaddafi. As expected (he has an anti american pov)

Right after the bombing (interview with russia’s UN rep)

US should have blamed the rebels, later presented the evidence then if indeed it was someone else

So, what does that say about Lavrov’s claim that SAA forces don’t fly at night?

that was a different interview, it was taken after the UN summit

These weren’t the “moderate rebels” saying that they saw the helicopters and heard the jets coming in. These were the Syrian Red Crescent workers. But hey, spin away.

Whats the difference? id say i saw the space shuttle if i was just mortared or missled in the rebel territory and i had “shell shock”. Yet Russian radars didnt see the planes or helos, neither did turkey (its 57km from the border). Maybe the predator drone saw it? then it should provide pic’s, videos…

– i dont know what happened – we all dont know but it cant be as simple as “eye for an eye” because no sane person would attack a well known UN convoy, if the russians did it then i wasted and hour typing up that huge text, however its more likely for the SAA to do this then the russians.

the funny thing is that the rebels are blaming SAA, the US is blaming russia… so even the blamers cant agree on who did it

You can try this http://russian.typeit.org/ ,i just need the part where he talking about how they know the object in the area is a Predator and belong to US. Since you always reference Russian video , i figured that you may be able to speak or write Russian ( it would be rather weird if you cant ). Berkut and paralay probably not interested in writing transcript for video they didnt cite ,hence, i ask you.

“Уважаемые коллеги, категоричных усных объявлений заместителя президента Соединенных Штатов Америки господина банароссо который обвинил Россию в нанесении авиаударов по гуманитарному грузу в алеппо а также утечки с американской стороны по якобы присутствует там самолетов СУ 24 вынуждают нас раскрыть деликатные подробности трагического инцидента 19 сентября.
Начнем с того что обороны России имеют данные объективного контроля воздушной обстановки вечером 19 сентября в период когда якобы был нанесен авиаудар по гончарному грузу

Российские самолеты не планировали и не выносили никаких ударов, их в районе не было вообще более того вечером 19 сентября в ходе телефонных переговоров представительных авиагруппа в абазе имим Был подробно об этом информирован представитель командования ВВС США звания полковника фамилии его хорошо известной американской стороне

Однако тем же вечером 19 сентября именно в этом районе в воздухе на высоте 3600 метров со скоростью 200 километров находился ударный беспилотник международной коалиции взлетевший c турецкой авиабазы инджирлик. По Эффективной
отражающей поверхность данный летательный аппарат был идентифицирован нашими системами контроля воздушной обстановки как беспилотный аппарат типа предитор, причем данный аппарат зашел в район населенного пункта ру лгебра Где находилась автоколонна и за несколько минут До возгорания и ушел из района спустя 30 минут.

Хочу подчеркнуть что этот случай с трагедией в районе населенного пункта до-розор 17 сентября когда зачет 5 авиаударов коалиции погибло более 200 человек мы не делаем основных выводов С какой целью этот беспилотник находился в данной точке в нужное время и Какие задачи он выполнял знаю только его владельца специально для господина роста поясняем данный тип беспилотником может не только наблюдать и наводить на землю Средства поражения а также самостоятельно наносить высокоточные удары по наземным объектам”

im getting carpals tunnel for sure but hope this helps…

Now that is vague , there are probably hundred things that can be put in predator class depending on aspect angle , NCTR is never an easy thing , that why i said nothing seem clear here in this case

I want the transcript crow, not that i dont believe you but i think it fair to provide a transcript when the language isnt English or may be you can write down what he said in Russian

this is where the full report starts

https://youtu.be/g2-gETOEFXM?t=51m34s

it will take me like an hour to type this (dont have rus keyboard) if you could ask paralay or berkut .. they are quicker @ typing

1. You mean radar scattering characteristics.? still dont see how they know it is exactly a predators, NCTR isn’t that advance IMHO

2. Can you speak Russian? can we have a Russian transcript?

1. he said predator class,

i found the whole interview, i can summarize what he said.
“due to laying the blame for this on russia we are forced to release sensitive radar data, as we stated before syria is one of the places that we have a total radar “visibility”…. we noted a predator class unmanned drone ( from the coalition side) it was in the area when this happened and left 30 min later. Who ever was the owner of that craft needs to provide its data because they are the only ones that saw what had happened

1. The problem here is you have very skeptical attitude regarding what US or western has to say

2. I agree that they have capability to detect something flying in the area but the question is how do they know it is a predator ? knowing something is over there and knowing exactly what it is , are not the same

1. After listening to State Dep briefings and Matt from AP.. its like State does not talk to pentagon…
2. They can identify the type of aircraft based on its reflective surfaces (radar signature)