Alleged video footage of attack. Very dark, but the sound of aircraft overhead is clear:
https://www.facebook.com/aleppo24news/videos/vb.1093585364013565/1174130202625747/?type=2&theater
sound is slower then light sounds like a missle / rpg
little bit off topic found a video of Kornet rockets (either isis or kurds) destroying 3 turkish- (Israeli build Sabra Main Battle Tanks) last week
Syrian airforce has a bunch of Mig-29 and Mi-24 , both has thermal system , the Su-24 can carry Kaira-24 IIRC , technology wise there is nothing stopping them from bombing at night really.
Give the Russian transcript pls.
Doesnt disclose what ? what are you trying to say with that photo ? and you haven’t answer the question , if US didnt disclosed information then how did they know a predator was in the area ?
you are right about the 29’s
(ignore the annoying music)
i do not know why they dont attack at night… maybe old nav units maybe not well maintained or maybe they rely on visual confirmation
They probably do not have the money for missiles (look at the barrel bombs they make…)
this is the transcript in english:
“Our military have already made statements that our aircraft did not operate here. The Syrian aircraft could not have operated [there], because the attack against the convoy was conducted in the night time and the Syrian Air Force does not perform flights in this time, it has no such capabilities. The attack took place after humanitarian cargo had already been offloaded in eastern Aleppo,” Lavrov
The pic i showed you is the s-400 range of radar and missile, thats how they know who is flying where the s-400 has an array of radars and moskva the flagship has its own radars. They can definitely see whats going on in Aleppo because its pretty close to the russian base
a) even B-17 in WWII can do night raid, i find it ridiculous to claim that any modern airforce dont have capability to do night raid
b) If us didn’t disclose information then how do they know there is a predator in the area?
glad you asked
a) b 17’s carpet bombed, there were 10’s if not 100’s of them just randomly droping bombs
Statement about syrian AF : (in russian) https://youtu.be/4F6g7gVlX0E?t=1m21s 1:21-1:45
b) US dose not disclose things like this and thats why the S-400 is there
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also moskva might still be there
Yes, clear picture. The first web of lies did not stick. Recast a new web, this one centering on the U.S. (a popular bogyman in Russian media). Mistakes happen, the U.S. hit Syrian troops. After initial denial, once it became clear and footage was analyzed, the U.S. came clean and admitted the error.
Russia? Why spend all that money on information warfare (creating fake news agencies, Twitter fronts, blogs, flooding comments sections of Western Media), if you can’t use it.
again with this…
a) this happened at night, the Sirian Airforce Dose Not have the capability to fly at night period, they don’t do night Raids..(even Lavrov said this multiple times)
b) Look at flight data Russians were not near that vicinity, the only thing that was there was the predator. US does not want to show the data, just like that sattelite in ukraine was above that area when the plane (mh-17) was shot down, US simply does not want to share the data…. suspicious? i think so…
c) the convoy was parked and unloading at the time of the strike
d) No craters, suppose it was a hellfire missile? targeting a near by not so moderate leader or isis came in to get some aid too…..
Fresh off the News 🙂 guess what? there was a US predator drone in that area… unbelievable…
“On the evening of September 19, in that specific region, a drone belonging to the international condition, which had taken off from the Incirlik air base in Turkey, was flying at a height of 3,600 meters and traveling at around 200 kilometers per hour,” said Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov.
“The object was in the area around the town of Urm Al-Kubra, where the convoy was a few minutes before it caught fire,” Konashenkov added. “It left after about 30 minutes.”
“This type of drone can not only monitor the situation, but also guide ground weapons to their targets and inflict surgical airstrikes at objects located on the ground by itself,” the Russian spokesman explained.
“Our western colleages are putting their best efforts to hype up the situation and ‘blur’ the tragedy in Deir ez-Zor and to distract the international community from Al-Nusra’s advance on Aleppo and thus cover the US incompetence in distinguishing between the ‘moderate’ opposition and terrorists in Syria.”
Now we are starting to see the picture..
In other words, Russia’s information management is confused & contradictory…
We can’t trust what any arm of the Russian state says because even if we want to believe them, we don’t know which story to choose & some of them are unbelievable…
1. id rather trust russian info then syrian info or a “random” human rights activist that lives in britain (russia has more to loose now)
2. Confused? Speaking of confused russians had to call the US coordination twice to get them to stop bombing the syrian army because US Generals did not know what the russians were talking about… took them 40 min to figure it out that their planes left for a bombing run… (also now we know they were monitoring the SAA in that area for 3 days before the strike…). Now to the defence of the US generals the SAA were in civilian clothing- which is not acceptable because its an army- they have to be identifiable
3. If you pay attention the russian MOD has 1 story. Convoy not attacked from air.
No , but because of how you treat similar case of collateral damage so differently just depending on the country who did it. ” It is not a bombing because the truck was mostly intact ” ? what kind of stupid logic is that ?. And just because the moderate truck was near the convoy doesnt make that attack an acceptable thing to do , you have to think about the colletaral damage. This kind of behavior from either US or Russian is irresponsible and disgraceful , and cause load of innocent people to die.And if you cant see the problem with that then you either blind or delusional
Im against war, all casualties should be avoided
Your bias on the issue is unbelievable
How is that? because i quoted the russian MOD?
or because by pure coincidence the rebels decided to coincidentally change their mortar positions just as the aid convoy was rolling through the streets in broad daylight with drones and the VSS watching? (perhaps their thinking: “maybe if we blend in with the trucks, the russians will think we are carrying aid too” facepalm…)
Awfully quiet in here now? Obviously the US bombing of the Syrian troops (and their behavior at UN afterwards) was a dick move but now an aid convoy was bombed. Chances are – that was either Russian or Syrian AF. US is now officially stating that Russia were behind it using two Su-24M’s.
Russians on the other hand claim that the convoy caught fire by itself… Sure, sure.
a. The trucks were mostly intact so its not a “bombing”
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image: ministry of russian defence
you can clearly see the “moderate” rebels taking cover next to the aid convoy with pickup trucks & mortars attached
link to drone footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUMJ2vm4vgU
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Im confused.
The pic with the orange ladder- thats 051, ive lit up multiple of 052-55 pics of intakes- and i do not see the engine, they have put something angular at the bottom on the intake shaft (maybe movable) so you cant see the engine at the straight forward angle. F22 does the same except from but its from the top, the ducks are practically the same
what are you guys arguing about?
OFF topic armata in syria
http://i.imgur.com/sGbS0d1.jpg
pranked a bunch of Chinese “blog” / news agencies 🙂
Bad intelligence from moderate terrorists.
Well you also have to take into account that currently in Quatar there was a meeting between a few moderate rebel commanders that were going to create their own group because of low american support… co incidentally this happened, USAF bombed asadi forces? impeccable timing? Or to prove that they are still on the moderate rebels side?
further Only the US operates the A-10 so by saying oh it was the coalition.. maybe the f16’s were from the coalition but i think the A10’s did the bombing …
A) US knew they can get away with it
B) They proved once and for all that they still are supporting the moderates
C) Isis is retarded because as soon as they sense they are loosing in an area, all their fighters switch flags and sides and claim they are “moderates” too
(sourse: Andrey Filatov ANNA NEWS)
D) It should be Black and White- Terrorists or Asad.( because this is War)
E) Later on the “Opposition” can create their political parties and let the people decide who will be in power
i like your photoshops! you ever thought about j-20 in Russian air force colors? or j-31?
http://i.imgur.com/j8f5amb.jpg
thanks here you go , i attempted …
Now all it would take is 2 tu-160’s armed with 2 FOAB’s each, drop them tomorrow on known opposition forces HQ’s and then apologies
what is the radius of those any one know?