David EyreHere’s one taken in 1978 by Mick Bajcar:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0683592/L/
Another couple of photos, taken at Old Warden:
http://www.yakuk.com/img/G-AYAK.jpg
http://www.yakuk.com/img/G-AYAK1.jpg
And this may or may not help:
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/o/8/9_o/0/1
David EyreVH-CJS (former G-ALZL) still has the fixed undercarriage, although the undercarriage is currently removed. When I went to the museum a couple of days ago, the aircraft was in exactly the same position and condition as it appears in this photo:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1050789/
There are a couple of older photos of VH-CJS on Airliners.Net – one taken in the early 1970s (when it was still flying), with Altair:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1128978/L/
The aircraft was withdrawn from use in 1976, and sat in open storage at Jandakot, slowly deteriorating. I don’t know why the excellent Aviation Heritage Museum at nearby Bull Creek didn’t grab it, but I have a memory of some disputes about who owned it.
Finally someone decided to take action, and the prototype Heron was dismantled in early 1988 and moved to a fenced compound at Jandakot, for a proposed “WA Museum of Aviation”. This is my photo, taken in April 1988, just after it was dismantled and moved the WA Museum of Aviation compound:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1243543/L/
The WA Museum of Aviation never got going, so it sat in the open until January 1997 when the Aviation Heritage Museum at Bull Creek finally received it.
There is a detailed history and links to photos of the aircraft here:
http://www.raafawa.org.au/wa/museum/heron/default.htm
David EyreHi TJ,
There is a DH Production List website which includes the Heron (and all other DH types):
http://www.dehavilland.ukf.net/production_new.htm
Incidentally, here in Perth, Western Australia, we have the prototype Heron VH-CJS at the Aviation Heritage Museum, in the Perth suburb of Bull Creek. I visited there a couple of days ago.
The fuselage of the Heron is still sitting outside, with a few tarpaulins loosely covering part of it. The wings and tail surfaces are under cover in an open-ended garage attached to the larger of the museum buildings. I asked one of the museum when they will be starting work on it, but he couldn’t give me an answer.
The museum is extremely overcrowded and cluttered. To accommodate their latest aircraft, a PBY-5A Catalina, they had to move a number of aircraft outside or elsewhere. As it is a private museum, they rely on donations, so they cannot yet afford to move to bigger premises.
David EyreHi Folks,
I saw it at EMA on 30 September 1979.
I don’t have a photo – I didn’t get a camera until 1985 (kicking myself now – could have got photos of lots of Viscounts, Argosies, Vanguards, Boeing 707s, etc).
Over to you…
David EyreHi Guys,
Thanks for the replies.
The aircraft was definitely a Piper Tomahawk, but perhaps I have made a mistake in my logging of its registration.
Is there any Tomahawk with a registration similar to N96070? Sometimes the letter D is painted like a zero. Could it be N9607D, or something similar?
David EyreSome more info and photos of the modified ex-British Airways Boeing 747. The advert was filmed at Dunsfold, England.
And info about the making of the advert:
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/11/24/210761/picture-volkswagen-touareg-suv-tows-boeing-747-in-test-of-pulling.html
http://www.bizbuzzmedia.com/blogs/big_lorry_blog/archive/2006/11/22/5463.aspx
David EyreHi Newforest,
So do you know whether it is in Spain, or are you really guessing?
David
David EyreFrom what I have read, the Aviation Heritage Museum at Bull Creek (a suburb of Perth, Western Australia) has a policy of preserving aircraft with a Western Australian connection, as well as ex-RAAF or historically significant types.
The prototype Heron arrived in Australia in July 1973, was registered VH-CJS, and operated in WA for the next three years, until being withdrawn from use in 1976 at Jandakot. It stayed there exposed to the weather for another 31 years, until moved to the Aviation Heritage Museum at Bull Creek.
The aircraft does have a WA connection and it is historically significant, (being the prototype Heron), so it does fit with the museum’s preservation policy.
When I last saw VH-CJS (2005), it was still sitting outside the museum’s display buildings exposed to the weather, awaiting restoration. I am going to visit the museum again soon, so will advise whether any progress has been made.
Here’s a link to the museum’s website (which needs updating) with details of VH-CJS:
http://www.raafawa.org.au/wa/museum/heron/default.htm
The museum has a severe shortage of space as they have so many aircraft. They have recently taken delivery of a Catalina, which has taken a large amount of space in one of their two buildings. There was talk of relocating the museum to bigger premises, but nothing has happened so far.
David EyreHi Dave,
For more technical stuff (usually very sparse on inter war British types) try the RAF Museum’s newish database, ‘Navigator’ the National Archives in Kew, and you are lucky that Shorts still exist as an entety; (unlike, say, Supermarine) and may be be to help if you can find the right person and if they’ve kept their archives.Certainly the RAF Museum holds the Charles E Brown photo collection. IIRC, there’s a photo in one of the books of his work of a Singapore being bombed up.
Anyone able to elaborate on any of these leads?
Hi John,
Has anyone heard from Harry lately? Is he still working?One of the great aviation historians and researchers IMHO.
David Eyre – I would be very appreciative of a photo of that propeller!
Cheers,
Hi JDK,
What propeller are you referring to?
David EyreHi Dave,
Some of these may help you:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn3723637
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/APS/2408L.jpg
http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/SHORT%20S19%20SINGAPORE%20III.htm
http://futurshox.net/aeroview.php?level=image&id=611
http://futurshox.net/aeroview.php?level=image&id=612
http://futurshox.net/aeroview.php?level=image&id=613
http://www.rafweb.org/Markings/SingaporeIII.jpg
http://website.lineone.net/~remosliema/singapore.jpg
http://www.msacomputer.com/FlyingBoats-old/short/1934Short-S19-SingaporeIII.jpg
http://www.msacomputer.com/FlyingBoats-old/short/1934Short-Singapore.jpg
http://adf-serials.com/nz-serials/K6912.shtml
http://vintage-aviation.hp.infoseek.co.jp/uk_short-singapore-3_1934.jpg
http://www.go2war2.nl/artikel-afb/Singapore_00470_2g.jpg
http://perso.orange.fr/aero.slhada/image/singapore.JPG
http://www.jeanbellis.com/iso_album/210x210_short_singapore_copie.jpg
David EyreHi Darkstar,
I wholeheartedly agree that this is a fantastic documentary series – I have watched it many times over.
It is currently only available on VHS (see Amazon and other websites). I have sent a suggestion to the BBC that they should release it on DVD, but given the number of requests they deal with, I would be surprised if they listen.
David EyreDustyone,
Some more Proctor pics in the Air Britain Photographic Images Collection:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/results.php?q=proctor&fields=type&sort=latest&limit=10
A couple from the Australian War Memorial collection:
http://cas.awm.gov.au/PROD/gl.accept_login?screen_name=cas_search_pkg.pr_search_by_link&screen_parms=acid~ps_query_type=accnum~ps_query=P01167.010~ps_referrer=oai:awm:232754/923435&screen_type=BOTTOM
One from the National Livbrary of Australia:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn3723432
Proctor photos from Airliners.Net:
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=Proctor
From Photobucket:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/02biddulpho/oli003.gif
From Flickr:
(Click on “All sizes”, and select Large Size to download full size images):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/monsieurstyle/131271823/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/monsieurstyle/126879459/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/flissphil/110397696/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/flissphil/106690146/
From airwaysmuseum.com:
http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Flying%20doctor%20c.50s%204.htm
http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Percival%20Proctor%20VH-AUC%20preservation%2065.htm
Google image search:
http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&q=percival%20proctor&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
David EyreHi There,
I noticed you had no replies to this topic – perhaps it may help if you are a bit more specific:
– What do you mean by “early” – 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s?
– Civil, military, or both?
– Which area do you need them from – UK, Europe, Australia, all over the world?
– Do you want actual photos, or will links to photos on the internet suffice?
The A.J.Jackson collection of photos at the Brooklands Museum has many Proctor photos – here’s a list:
http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk/P1.HTM
Details on how to obtain the photos are here:
http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk/details.htm
The Ed Coates Collection has a number of photos of Proctors in Australia – go into each list and use the “Find on this page” command to do a search for the word Proctor.
http://www.edcoatescollection.com/
This was from a quick look, but if you can be more specific, I might be able to find more.
David EyreHi Ross,
The A J Jackson collection at the Brooklands Museum in the UK lists that it has one photo of your aircraft when it was registered G-AIEB. Details of how to obtain a copy are here:
http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk/details.htm
You’ve perhaps seen this already, but here’s an old photo of your aircraft VH-AHY taken in August 1955:
David EyreHi 2AV8,
Found a website with CV’s of ex-RAF Apprentices – scroll down to John Hassell. He says:
“1965 Demobbed after my 12 yrs and took a staff job in the Development Flight Test Hangar at Bristol Siddeley Engines at Filton. I spent 16 months designing and building the radio installation into a very non-standard Vulcan XA903. This aircraft then test flew the Olympus 593b which was fitted into it’s bomb bay, later to power Concorde.”
http://members.lycos.co.uk/barryfrog/index2.html
Here’s a site with pilot notes for the Vulcan, including those for XA903. It says:
“The B1a notes include a supplementary set of notes relating to XA903 which was used as the Bristol/Rolls Royce Olympus test bed for Concorde.”
http://www.pilot-notes.co.uk/bombers.htm
Video clip of XA903 at Farnborough in 1960s with Olympus test engine:
http://photo.livevideo.com/video/FB0EB8A1400D48A6A43A5475F8E71D06/airshow-action-avro-vulcan-test-bed.aspx
I haven’t been able to find any cockpit shots yet, but thought you may be interested to see these other shots of XA903:
http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/table.php?searchitem=%25xa903%25&mtv=G1&pnum=1
http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/903/index.htm
http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/903/903_fb.htm
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1036644/
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1044482/
Regards,
David
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