Steve
Yes, W5856. As my reply suggests, all being well she may return to the fold sometime next year. Keep checking the RNHF website for details.
In the meantime is there anyone on here with access to any preserved Pegasus engines who might be able to help me complete a form of census? I’m particularly interested in the two numbers to be found stamped onto the crankcase housing – one is a five-digit number (sometimes prefixed ‘P’) and the other is a six-digit number (sometimes prefixed ‘A’).
Anyone?
Rgds
Lee
Lovely! You can never have too many Flying Fish! A hearty congrats to all involved. Hopefully this time next year we might be talking about THREE Swordfish…….;-)
Bruce
That’s very sad. John was a real gent and, as you say, a stalwart in every sense of the word.
There can’t be many of the old guard left now.
RIP. What a depressing weekend!
Lee
It was definitely a Dominie! Trust me!
Then we don’t trust you – lol. The RN haven’t had Dominies since the DH89 variant back in the 1960s!
There were two ex-750 Sqn Jetstreams which left Culdrose yesterday by road; one heading to Germany, the other to Norfolk.
Stewart
I’m intrigued. Does your engine have a serial number plate on it, and if so can you tell me which one it is? There should, in theory, be two – one purely numerical and a second prefixed “A”.
Lee
Only last November I had the honour of having a brief chat with him over drinks and nibbles at Aldershot library where he was handing out the prizes for the Hampshire Library Services Military Book Awards (our “Fly Navy: View from a Jungly Cockpit” won People’s Choice Award 😀 ). That was the first time he’d been out and about for some time having had some form of blood poisoning which had very nearly proved fatal, but he said he as on the road to recovery and was in good spirits, looking forward to a new TV history series he was involved in which was due for airing this year (perhaps he managed to complete filming?).
A thoroughly nice bloke, and a sad loss.
Anyone get photos of the Piston Provost/Chipmunk/CAP10/TB.10/PA28 departure?;):D
…oh no they weren’t Lee! QED!
:confused: Doh! Should learn to read what I write! Yes, I did make mention of HU.5s retaining the fluorescent scheme initially for a short while (Pg 347). Quite right! Of course I also omitted to mention here (albeit covered in the book – including a photo) the Wessex HU.5s of Red Dragon Flight which had fluorescent markings applied.
To (hopefully) bring the discussion of reds to a close, at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter what the name used is….it’s the BS381C tint reference number which is the important bit to get right. Post-war roundel reds should be BS381C-538.
Chox
There was nothing disingenuous about my reply. I have the greatest of respect for those who plied the same lonely furrow before me. What I asked was what your sources were, seeing as you point blank refuted my comment that Cherry Red was what the official documentation showed. I’m curious, that’s all, and more than happy to review anything I may have put into print as long as any counter-argument is backed up with something I can go on. If being fair is an issue, then surely it’s only fair to tell someone they are wrong if they have the evidence to back their claims up with?
Let’s not go overboard with this. I feel thread-creep is upon us!
Lee
There’s no contradiction from what I’ve seen – they all specify Cherry Red. It’s everyone else who states Post Office Red…….yet they don’t state where THEY got it from!
Care to divulge your sources?
How bizarre. Maybe it’s a Westland thing then? Ask Dick Ward, Richard Caruana or Paul Lucas – I’m sure they’ll all tell you the same that post-war the roundel colour has always been Post Office Red. I honestly have no idea where the term Cherry Red might have come from.
But that was my reason for including a section in the book – to try and dispell any colloquial terms which may have been used in the past and revert to the original documentation. I’m not decrying the work of those who have produced the modelling magazines over the years – far from it. Had he not died tragically young I would be sat here typing this right now just 100yds from where the late Mike Keep once lived. It is a constant source of regret that he is no longer with us as he undoubtedly was the best in his field. What wonders he could now be producing with the benefit of modern technology!
The issue of the dayglo paint finish caused me no end of angst. And whilst I’m not saying that what I’ve put together is the be-all and end-all, it may hopefully serve to clarify a few things and maybe even bring forth some additional new information.
Chox
The official Westland drawings, of which I have copies. Check out BS381C-538 for yourself if you don’t believe me. The first drawing that comes neatly to hand is that for the Wasp, and whilst some (but certainly not all) manufacturers list this as “Post Office Red Cherry” it is quite clearly referenced on these and all other aircraft sources I’ve seen as “Cherry Red”. Believe me, I’ve been through this quite thoroughly – AP970, AP119-0901-0C, AFOs, CAFOs, Modification registers and leaflets…… My sources are all listed in the book, together with descriptions of roundels, their tints, ARTF paints etc.
Now, having stated my sources, perhaps you’d like to state what yours are? I’d be interested to see how ‘official’ they are, as opposed to perhaps those pumped out by modelling magazines over the years?
Lee
er no, Post Office Red actually. Where the hell has “Cherry Red” come from?!
Err……official drawings! And is what is still applied to this day. Back at ya: where did Post Office Red come from?!
As I say, t’is all in the book!
….although the roundel colour remained Post Office Red.
BS381C-538 Cherry Red for roundels, not Post Office Red. 😉
Two different finishes there. The Whirlwind is (should be) “Dockerblaze Fluorescent Red-Orange”. The Wessex HU.5s were always “Signal Red” (their HAS.1 predecessors were Dockerblaze).
All nicely detailed within a nice new book on its way from the printers the second week in May….;):D