Actually, you’re a bit premature. They’ve only issued the Permit to Fly; it hasn’t actually flown yet.
Delete the component serials and DTD numbers from the fin, rudder and fuselage: they are only applied to vertical surfaces on the starboard side. There were never any on the cowling either; they’re only applied to major components.
Paul
Can’t access the link?
I found an email from you recently with some additional details of a Fairey IIIF incident that you’d found in the Portsmouth Evening News that I hadn’t caught up with. Now duly entered into the master version of the files. Always keen to take in any additional info to keep the records going.
Lee
Andrew
[for those wondering, No.1690 (Bomber) Defence Training Flight]
The thing to remember is that Ray was the figurehead and driving force behind the publication of a lot of books and magazine articles but they were not always the result of one man’s research. There were a number of others – the backroom boys – who quietly beavered away to supply him with the raw material that he then used to generate the books that so often bore his name. For RAF types a lot of the backroom work was done by Jim Halley (who also sadly passed away last month) who had privileged access to the Air Historical Branch archives at Bentley Priory and latterly at Northolt.
It is worth noting that Vic Flintham and Andy Thomas in their book ‘Combat Codes’ also cite 1690 as being 9M. What sources have you looked through?
With the passage of time it is unfortunately impossible to determine quickly and easily the origins of some of the information, but while Ray’s work wasn’t perfect (whose is?), I doubt he would have cited such a thing without good reason.
Lee
Andrew
I am now custodian of the master versions of the records (as might be expected, having co-authored FAAFWAS1946 and subsequently FAAHS1943 and S&UoTFAA, and we are working on the second edition of FAAA39-45) and keep them fully up to date (including making any amendments as necessary that come to light with the passing of time).
What is your query?
Lee
Copies of ‘Fleet Air Arm Helicopters since 1943’ and ‘The Squadrons and Units of the Fleet Air Arm’ give more info.
XG581 was originally Ship’s Flight Bulwark as ‘982/B’ but with the ship in harbour it transferred to 701 Sqn ‘D’ Flt in Oct 57 (who took over the parenting of Bulwark’s Ship’s Flight) and would have kept its original code. Hence why it is listed in Bagnall’s logbook (he features several time over a number of types in FAAHS1943).
Bulwark supposedly left Portsmouth on 16 November (day after the crash) for Rosyth, when it would have been en-route in the North Sea when the two Fireflies crashed (histories of both from ‘Fleet Air Arm Fixed-Wing Aircraft since 1946’).
Lee
Steve, I think you might have your work cut out with some of those types now with the passage of time (certainly Attacker and Sea Hornet). The Sea Vixen is about to be a Haynes Manual and was fairly well represented by the Air-Britain book on the type. I garnered a fair amount of stories on the Sea Hawk 20 years ago; sadly many of those who contributed are no longer around.
The SEA Vixen not a D.3 any more as it doesn’t have the drone equipment fitted. It’s a half-way house. But it is officially registered, as you point out, as a FAW Mk2.
Sabre jet, I don’t know what website you’re looking at (the RNHF one was made defunct several years ago when it was subsumed under the Navy Wings banner), but…
Swordfish I W5856: airworthy
Swordfish II LS326: stored Yeovilton awaiting engine
Swordfish III NF389: stored Yeovilton in kit form (Mk.III wings currently fitted to Mk.I)
Sea Fury FB.11 VR930: stored Yeovilton
Sea Hawk FGA.6 WV908: stored Shawbury
Chipmunk T.10 WK608: airworthy (+ WB657 stored Hawarden)
Sea Vixen FAW.2 G-CVIX (stored pending repair) and Sea Fury T.20 G-RNHF (airworthy) are owned and funded by Navy Wings, not RN.
Old news (announced last year) that for some reason surfaced on the local news yesterday.
I do suspect that BBMF will eventually go, to a greater or lesser extent, the same way (the days of saying any of these are ‘recruitment tools’ are long gone, I fear). The support infrastructure that underpins historic operations on the military register which drives a requirement for 70/80-year old aircraft designs to meet punitive modern-day regulations is increasingly difficult to achieve in an age where dwindling budgets mean there are fewer resources available to support even the smaller-in-number current types.
Swap a Swordfish for a Seafire? Nah.
Which piece numbers are these, do you know?
Wildcat seats are totally different to Lynx ones. No commonality whatsoever.
I think you’ll find these guys have beaten you to it and have done a really good job:
I believe this was covered in the Haynes Manual on the Sea King written by someone a couple of years ago.;)
Was there until at least 5 July 1962. There is at least one photo known to exist of it sat on the grass next to the petrol station in snow.