Lee – what is your position within the RNHF?
Webmaster.
Guys
Not wishing to promote this thread much more, but let’s put some things straight here for the record:
1. Firstly, it’s the ROYAL NAVY Historic Flight, not FAA Historic Flight (good to see people get that one right!).
2. Former RNHF T.20 WG655 is not on its way over to the UK.
3. RNHF are not buying any Sea Fury.
4. The “wishlist” is very nice, but in virtually all cases completely unrealistic.
5. The remains of WB271 were not scrapped at all and are still, for the time being, extant, though they will eventually be destroyed.
I suggest that this thread is brought to a timely halt before any more half-truths based on comments made at a private function are publically banded around? All official public statements on RNHF business are made via the OFFICIAL website.
Speaking of which, please note that the last date for posting orders for good from the online shop is Thursday 21 December. Best get those Xmas cards now while stocks last!
Cheers
Lee
Regular readers of the ONLY official RNHF website will be aware that it was not the cartridge starting system as a whole that was the problem, but the ageing cartridges themselves. Needless to say, the aircraft is (or will be when it returns to Yeovilton in March) fully serviceable, as is the engine.
Tests are currently underway on the remaining stock of cartridges, and RNHF remain hopeful that a small batch may be released again in time for the 2007 season. Keep checking back on the site for updates……like last night’s one.
Don’t worry, she hasn’t been sold!!
WV908 left Yeovilton on Tuesday for ARCO and should be back at VL early next year. There are already brief details on the OFFICIAL website (see below), and these will be updated with this week’s info just as soon as I can get around to it!
The Comet will follow after Christmas. I was told that she will probably be repainted in situ in hangar 1 (in Air France colours) as the “shop” is full. Fella on the desk said that she never wore RAF colours??
Oh yes she did – XM823, see hereXM823 Piccie Linky
Orginally F-BGNZ. As a teenager I spent a whole winter painting out the fuselage of her sister, F-BGNX, at Salisbury Hall (Bruce will recall).
Only just got back from painting a Vampire in Arizona (well, someone has to!), so only just seen this thread. Forgive any bloopers – been on the go for 24 hrs! Full history in Air-Britain’s “Fleet Air Arm Fixed-Wing Aircraft since 1946” (there I go plugging again!).
Indeed the construction of the aircraft was begun by the Air Engineering School at RNAS Arbroath before transferring with the unit to Lee-on-Solent. Here she was completed and test flown. She then spent a short while as a glider tug (not sure how successfully!).
She is still at Yeovilton and should fly again in the not too distant future. Claim to fame: The only aircraft ever BUILT by the Royal Navy!
The MB.5. Ah, now there was an aeroplane that really ought to have had a happier ending. How can anyone possibly say this was ugly? It was a beasty!! I always liked that particular shot with the canopy open on take off and the pilot with his cloth helmet and oxygen mask on.
I don’t think the final fate of the aircraft has ever been nailed down. Wasn’t it last seen at Bircham Newton? I believe the running joke for anyone who visits Chalgrove is to walk along the hedge line, stop and suddenly exclaim “Oh look, here it is!!”, and see how many people will look up. ๐
As for that abomination in the States – sheesh! It looks AWFUL! I fully agree with the comments about the Prototype “P”, but what about the colour too?! I sense this project has “Tragedy” written all over it at some point in the future. ๐
And there’s me thinking you were just putting on weight! ๐ ๐
Seriously, congrats Bruce! ๐
The photos came from Graham cooper.
Now why doesn’t that surprise me? The man who was selling off the Fleetlands archive wholesale, and without permission! Thankfully I managed to get whatever was left transferred to the safe custody of the Fleet Air Arm Museum before anything else could go missing and any more money could line his pockets! I’m sure there is one other person on here who could vouch for this! ๐ก
Yes the photos are taken at RNAY Fleetlands. They show an aircraft in the engine detuning pen and others in F Shop. Where did you get them from?
The other one of the two 803 Sqn aircraft is taken on Victorious and is indeed a reverse image.
…see the ‘Thunder and Lightnings’ website for a good rundown.
Or buy the Air-Britain book instead! ๐ Packed with photos (many never before seen in print), histories and pilot anecdotes of what it really was like to fly.
Plug over… ๐
The Air Britain tome on the Scimitar – The Scimitar File – is an absolute must.
After a year of editing/re-writing it should be! ๐
It is true that the Scimitar was a very much forgotten type, and I consider myself very lucky to have made contact with Les Colquhoun and Dave Morgan to get as much information from them to go into the book before they both passed away. Dave in particular was a real gentleman and it was never any problem giving him a call to run through bits and pieces to check for accuracy. His memory was razor sharp.
Was it one of the pile of canopies (at least a dozen) of very similar looking ones which was at the Flowers scrap yard in Chippenham?
I remember one had the word โScimitarโ written on it in faint chinagraph.
You beat me to it! A friend of mine was spitting feathers (quite rightly) when he sent a friend of his along in his absence to the auction of items from Flowers’ scrapyard in Chippenham having been tipped off about Scimitar canopies. When I was editing (sorry, completely re-writing!!) The Scimitar File for Air-Britain I put this anecdote in. By all accounts there were a handful of them all still in their waxed paper and they were all bought by some numpty of a “designer” who wanted to turn them into chairs!! ๐ฎ
This guy wouldn’t even part with one of them for cash.
So maybe one of them has come to light after all?
This do ya?

Did they fold the wings of 336 too?
Unfortunately not this time.