I did hear that they considered fitting some sort of radar inside one of the pods and use the VC-10 as some sort of radar platform during the Falklands war. This may have been another Falklands “Urban myth” There were loads of them around at the time!
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Well, even surgeons forget their tools inside patients from time to time 😀
The difference between surgeons and aircraft engineers?????
Surgeons kill in one’s!!!!!
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It’s not just money that made it possible…the 135s could be done in large part because they were not (and never would be) commercially operated.
The military has a lot more leeway in modifying its aircraft than an airline would.
I don’t know about that.
One thing that did make the 135 program viable was that there were hundreds of them to be modified. Boeing did build a new 707 with CFM-56’s but it did not attract any orders. The one “new build” pure 707 it did do ended up as a presidential aircraft somewere.
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Now its’s Delta’s turn in the barrel.
As for the airborne returns. Three in a weekend? Nobody has mentioned the weekends were they had no airborne returns.
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I THINK they were RR Tay’s.
Dee Howard also re fitted a BAC 1-11 with Tay’s. It was at Farnborough for the show one year. I seem to remember that BAe, who held the design authority refused to co operate with the certification process so the project was stopped. BAe were building the 146 at the time and the re engined 1-11 was seen as a competitor. Personaly both aircraft were awful in their own way and I’m glad their both out of my life!
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Roger, Kicking in progress…:eek:.
With a soft slipper, please;)
a widebody with P&W/GE/Rolls was converted because a new owner preferred a different brand of engines?:.
Please don’t get p****d off with me:( The USAF changed airforce one’s engine from JT-9’s to CF-6’s.
I know thats not fair because it’s military and money was no object BUT… the money is no object bit says a lot. I don’t think that it’s an option for many operators. Changing suppliers mid stream is though
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It makes a mess of the birds too:D:D
Seriously, it always annoys me that once an airline has a serious incident every minor incident for about a month after gets headline reports.
“Ash tray full on Qantas aircraft, stocks fall”
“Qantas aircraft delayed by fog, Nothing to do with our maintenance, say management”
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I hate to do this but……
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=104659
See post No4
Told you so!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D
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Or was the first thing out of their mouths “It wasn’t anything to do with our maintenance”
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But the EEC’s stay with the engine?
Ah!!! To much wine, too many achronyms:o
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Has anyone EVER changed engine makes on an existing operational jet?
I’ve never heard of it happening outside of tests.
I’m sure in addition to the engineering issues, there would be a mountain of paperwork as wekk regarding certification.
You are going to kick yourself:o
Some 707/KC-135’s and DC-8’s changed to the CFM-56. I don’t think one entry in the tech log would cover it either:D
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How easy would it be for those airlines to replace them directly with GE engines if confidence was not quickly restored in the RR product?
I should imagine that everything below the wing would have to be replaced along with a lot of wiring and the electronic engine control boxes in the avionics bay. Then of course you would have to change all the software in the flight management computers and any other system that takes an input from the engines.
Not a ten minute job and also the other engine has its faults too. If the GE had lost a turbine disc they would have still have had the same amount of damage.
The 787 has been designed from the start so that both engines are interchangable from the bottom of the pylon down. With only the EEC’s needing to be changed.
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Hear are some pictures of the damage to the wing of the aircraft
There is going to be some serious overtime for the Airbus repair gang on this one!!
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Another trick they also play is that they send the engineers on the fith pod aircraft with all the stands and engine change kit and expect them to do a long flight, get off the aircraft, assemble one engine stand, remove the 5th pod and then get on with the engine change!!!
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Still much easier that getting permission to ferry the plane with one engine inoperable. I’m sure the red tape for such a manoeuvre would be 4 foot thick.
No not realy. Obviously it requires a few extra tech log entries and a management crew to fly it back but it is now the standard way to recover a quad and tri jet.
Engineeringly you have to boroscope the other engines and make sure they can reach max power (Some times done by the ferry crew at the end of the runway).Then you remove the fan blades and put a fairing over the core intake of the duff engine.
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