I don’t want to challenge his theory since he is a RR contractor but that does not sound right from any angle.
Ash gets into the engine internal air system, blocks the cooling supply to the disc, the disc heats up and then fails????? Maybe????
Needles to say when the experts get all the infomation the cause will be discovered.
Has any body seen any close up pictures of the engine yet?
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68 dead in Cuba. Four remarks.
O dead on an A380 two pages of coments.
A sad coment on this forum.
My thought go out to the familes who’s loved ones will not be coming home.
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Stuff happens.
I had a similar phrase in mind
It’s Qantas’s turn in the barrel! every incident involving a QF flight will be headline news for the next week of so. Also the law of sod dictates that Qantas will have another incident in the next week or so with an engine.
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Furthermore, Sioux City was a famous case of an uncontained fan, but there have been others. An Eastern Airlines L1011 lost a fan from number 2 engine (RB211) in the 70’s, which caused considerable structural damage but no deaths and no crash. An ONA DC-10 CF6 threw a fan from a wing engine which penetrated the fuselage and caused several fatalities. These are just the ones I remember off the top of my head; I am pretty sure there have been others.
I will agree with others who have stated that no commercial engine has any kind of containment system for a turbine….only the fan.
Both the Sioux city and ONA DC-10 incidents were compressor disc failures, not fan failures. The Eastern Tristar had the LP shaft fail so the fan, the hub, the first stage of the compressor and about three foot of the LP shaft departed the aircraft. Belive me NOTHING would have contained that!!!
The fan containment ring will only contain the blade and some times a realy determined blade will get through. BA had a fan blade fail on a 747 on takeoff in Oz a few years ago. It wasn’t eaven a full blade and that made it out of the containment ring, the cowling and into the aircraft!
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I have always been under the impression that engine cowlings are designed to contain an engine failure and this is because if an engine failure is uncontained the debris from the failure might penetrate the pressure cabin. Such a penetration could be disastrous.
The engine cowlings are not designed to contain an engine failure. The engine fan, compressor and turbine cases are designed to contain a blade failure. This looks like a compressor DISC failure. Nothing will contain a disc failure. Disc failures are very rare and, almost always result in parts of the disc rupturing the engine case.
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Incredible how time flies. Just a while back those were brand new and state of the art planes.
I remember the frst time I went into the flightdeck of a 757, It looked like the star ship Enterprise compared to the old helicopters I was used to. Now, compared to a 777 or an A330, it looks aincient!
It is still a good aircraft and I think it was a mistake to stop making it. It’s also the best looking Boeing EVER!!!
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Why are the airlines removing the words “Airways” or “Airlines” from their names painted on the planes? Is this the latest fashion? :confused:
This was an “old” livery, used twenty five years ago. BA decided that as other airline just used their first names, American, Singapore, Delta etc, they would drop the”Airways” bit. It didn’t work!!!
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Nice photos! On the first photo, what is that yellow thing for? Is it a power source to avoid using the APU while parked at the gate?
Yes. It is called the FEP. Fixed Electrical Power. It is very un reliable at MAN, they did it on the cheap. Some airlines use their own GPU’s (Ground Power Units) others just keep the APU’s running for the entire turn round. Makes MAN’s “Green” statments rubbish!!!
Thanks for the compliments.
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Cking. You maybe should look at the date within your last post :rolleyes:
Keith. ?
Well done Keith…. I was wondering who would spot that first!;)
OK October. I’m on shift and I wil go and have a look at the beast.
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The last flight into Manchester is on 30th of August on the BA1384.
Be there or be square!!
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Ah yes, the classic -300 nose first landing damage!
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Royal-Air-Maroc/Boeing-767-36N-ER/1538735/M/
There is another one on the british register that has done it (No names, no pack drill;)) and my contact at an American airline says that he is aware of, at least two similar incidents with his airline.
It is not un common.
Now before people start saying “Cut and shut”, it’s a BIG repair and the Boeing repair team are the only people who do it.
Que “Cut and shut” coments!!!:;)
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Just a thought, that’s all.
Perhaps a nick name???
Thanks for the Swedish lesson. My Swedish is limited to that learned in IKEA and from the silver tounges of ABBA!
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What is the Swedish for “Phantom”?
I’m just thinking that Viggen means Thunderbolt and Draken means Dragon, perhaps another aircraft’s name translates into Phantom?
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I simpathise, I must have over 50 old Stanley and Record wood planes…….
I need help too:D
You’re just plane mad!!!:D
My wife had the cheek to tell me I had to many tools!!!!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TO MANY TOOLS!!!
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Rhymes with “Height”…..
Why do they think that people will buy this stuff??? I personaly havn’t got room, what with all my “Diana, princess of hart’s” and “Queen Mum, gawd bless er” clocks!
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